paulkerton Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 Well, every device might need a HD webcam (I'm sure its for Teams / Hello) but I don't think that stops laptop manufacturers building in physical security over the camera does it? Well, other than people not wanting a bulkier machine I suppose.
mavhc Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 The HP 450 G7s have a <1mm sliding plastic camera cover. Don't mix up requirements for new machines with requirements for upgrades working
Norphy Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 Don't mix up requirements for new machines with requirements for upgrades working While that's not bad advice in general, I don't think anyone here has so far, have they?
Michael Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 While that's not bad advice in general, I don't think anyone here has so far, have they? I guess it depends - my preferred method would always be to image a workstation 'as new' rather than upgrade W10 > W11 in time. I can't see how the Windows installer could differentiate at this level, so probably would be classed as a new computer.
mavhc Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 Some of the Microsoft web pages are about what you need as an OEM if you're going to make new computers and want a Win11 sticker, not whether Win11 will install on an existing computer Meanwhile https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-is-letting-oems-ship-windows-11-pcs-without-any-tpm/ 1
LeMarchand Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 Some of the Microsoft web pages are about what you need as an OEM if you're going to make new computers and want a Win11 sticker, not whether Win11 will install on an existing computer Meanwhile https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-is-letting-oems-ship-windows-11-pcs-without-any-tpm/ My (possibly erroneous) reading of that is that TPM doesn't have to be enabled, not that it doesn't have to be there. Put it another way, testing on some decent (but older) systems has yet to find a machine that passes the test. (See above)
mdrabble Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 Looks like scalpers are buying TMP modules according to a reddit post
Oaktech Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 11 has now been released on the insider preview and I'm registered for it, but 0 devices out the 700 I have on inventory meet the minimum requirements to run it, so I can't even download it . Can anyone help me out with a 64bit UK English ISO that I can tinker with as I have a couple of things I'd like to try?
Primus Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 Their requirements for Windows 11 are quite insane, they're going to be walking these back quite significantly. 1
tg12 Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 Set up a VM on my Mac that has been able to install Windows 11 from the Insider Preview, don't think there's an ISO available yet though @Oaktech, but I'll see if I can find anything. 1
Oaktech Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 Their requirements for Windows 11 are quite insane, they're going to be walking these back quite significantly. Or at least give enterprise/edu sku's an opt out.
thimon Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Set up a VM on my Mac that has been able to install Windows 11 from the Insider Preview, don't think there's an ISO available yet though @Oaktech, but I'll see if I can find anything. You can download various ISO's from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewiso signing in with your Windows Insider account. Edit: Fudge, only Win 10 ISO's atm. Edited June 29, 2021 by thimon 1
tg12 Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 You can download various ISO's from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewiso signing in with your Windows Insider account. Yeah, they haven't put one up for Windows 11 when I last looked late last night unfortunately! 2
LeMarchand Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 So far my only device that hasn't been laughed out of the room is an HP x360 convertible. But the MS app claims it's managed by my school even though it's not Domain Joined and (possibly because it gets strict filtering) trying to join Insider fails. May try at home, but can't see myself getting time for a good while...
Oaktech Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 So far my only device that hasn't been laughed out of the room is an HP x360 convertible. But the MS app claims it's managed by my school even though it's not Domain Joined and (possibly because it gets strict filtering) trying to join Insider fails. May try at home, but can't see myself getting time for a good while... Yup... That's the only device we have on site that works, but it's the Heads 'personal-work' device that he chose to buy himself for work purposes to free up a school owned device for a teacher during the first lockdown, so I can't exactly use it for testing!
supportman Posted June 29, 2021 Author Posted June 29, 2021 New settings app confirmed then! Looks great. 3
LeMarchand Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 I just tried to look at my Insider settings. For some reason the site seems busy.
neonetman Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 It's looking at the moment like we're another school where pretty much our entire estate will not meet the specs. We have a large number of machines from before TPM was a thing, and those that may have TPM are no later than 6th gen chips. I'll be doing some more research to find exactly how we can move forward Nightmare!!!
Guest Guest Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 All but about 70 of our 230 are incompatible, even some of which I considered to be half decent
mavhc Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 Installed Insider build, rebooted, green screen of death, uninstalled itself, left no log file as to the error
hellgate24 Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) So far my only device that hasn't been laughed out of the room is an HP x360 convertible. But the MS app claims it's managed by my school even though it's not Domain Joined and (possibly because it gets strict filtering) trying to join Insider fails. May try at home, but can't see myself getting time for a good while... Had the same thing, had to disconnect my O365 account in Settings > Accounts > Access work or school Then it worked... well I say worked, also got told to go home because of my i7-5500u. Edited June 29, 2021 by hellgate24
paulkerton Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 Our Windows devices won't upgrade, so we'll be looking at using this as the opportunity to move as many staff as possible to Chromebook.
FN-GM Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) It's looking at the moment like we're another school where pretty much our entire estate will not meet the specs. We have a large number of machines from before TPM was a thing, and those that may have TPM are no later than 6th gen chips. I'll be doing some more research to find exactly how we can move forward Nightmare!!! It sounds like you have ancient hardware that should have been replaced already. You can’t really blame Microsoft that old hardware doesn’t work with modern software. Edited June 29, 2021 by FN-GM
mdrabble Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 Surface Pro4 is being told it doesnt meet the specs!! - CPU listed as not compatible - i5-6300U I think MS will have to rethink their hardware specs - especially for education
paulkerton Posted June 29, 2021 Posted June 29, 2021 It sounds like you have ancient hardware that should have been replaced already. You can’t really blame Microsoft that old hardware doesn’t work. *spits out drink*
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