rush_tech Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Just a quick question. Do you issue PGCE students email address's when they are at your school?
EvLPhenom Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 We don't generally give them email addresses, but if they have to use the VLE which is increasingly likely then we do, tbh though most of them don't use it.
firefox_2006 Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Yes we do...not quite sure how this ties in with the whole confidentiality agreement/rules about "looked after" students i.e. those from broken families etc. You can of course just give them limited access to things (i.e. create a "student teacher" group in exchange so they only see the messages they need to and nothing else). regards firefox_2006
sparkeh Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Generally no but if someone needs one for a specific purpose then we will consider it.
dwhyte85 Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 We give e-mail addresses, we delegate control to HoDs and the co-ordinator. We used to give just webmail access, most of ours never touch the VLE.. much like the teachers.
featured_spectre Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 We have generic ones which are used for each person. IE we have 3 PGCE students each year and its set like this [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Each persons email details are sent around the school the day that they arrive.
rush_tech Posted March 18, 2010 Author Posted March 18, 2010 Cheers for the replies:) we have 15 at a time just thinking about the best way to do it. Give them generic one or create individual accounts
rh91uk Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Hi, yeah we do. We get them to sign an AUP before though. We never used to!
K.C.Leblanc Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 The get everything a normal teacher would, even a laptop.
sparkeh Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 We do. Don't see any problem with it. Well I generally try and operate of the principle of granting least privileges for people to do their jobs and here, in general, PGCE students don't need an email account. The idea is that in the event that if resources are misused I don't want the school to be in the position where someone could say 'why did they have access to those resources in the first place?'
Edu-IT Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Well I generally try and operate of the principle of granting least privileges for people to do their jobs and here, in general, PGCE students don't need an email account. The idea is that in the event that if resources are misused I don't want the school to be in the position where someone could say 'why did they have access to those resources in the first place?' I totally understand! They're very limited on resources they can access, only the department area they're teaching in usually. I just think email is used for sharing important teaching resources. It's also used for network notifications. We disable the email addresses as soon as they leave.
TechMonkey Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 We do as it integrates them in slightly better, but we also give them the full IT & DP talk as part of their PGCE induction & get them to sign the AUPs.
Sylv3r Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 We provide them with e-mail addresses here, they wouldn't be able to do their job properly if we didn't as the majority of communication is now done via e-mail. The trays in the staff room are now used for external mail coming into the school only.
stinkfoot Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 We're a primary school, and yes we do, but as with other posts, they rarely use them.
powdarrmonkey Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 We provide full email and VLE access and some MIS access. After all, the point of a placement is to simulate the real world (sorry, the real school environment) and if we can't trust them now, we probably shouldn't trust them when qualified. They get a proper induction and AUP, naturally.
joe90bass Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Hi, yeah we do. We get them to sign an AUP before though. We never used to! Same here.
glennda Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) We provide them with email addresses but do not include them on any distribution lists - apart from all school staff as not much confidential stuff is sent to everyone! Most of our PGCE students only want it to write up there uni work! Edited March 18, 2010 by glennda
TwoZeroAlpha Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Any teaching students get a domain login with teacher access levels but nothing else. They have their own email addresses which if needed I can add to the staff mailing list. Some get involved and really use the system some never even log in. It's a mixture really. As a side note, I helped one of our recent trainees with installing Linux (Mint) on a Dell laptop he'd got on eBay without and OS. He's now purchased windows 7 but wants to keep linux, so was emailing me today to ask for advice. I felt very proud. He'll be one of the good ones (and was a PE trainee of all things!!)
Trapper Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Only if their Learning Manager requests it. We tend to start them off with basic visitors account - which actually have less access than the students. If requested we have a staff visitors group which gives them read access to our shared area (eg dump) and the staff and pupils sites on our VLE. Next step is an email account. They do not go into any "normal" school groups, apart from deparmental ones if requested. Although it was a faff to setup, we can now finely control what they have access to. The most they ever get is access to the departmental mailing list. No emails about the school or students gets directly to them. Of course we can't technically stop others forwarding it on.
SDM01 Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 we just get them to use their uni email address. haven't had anyone complain yet
sparkeh Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 After all, the point of a placement is to simulate the real world Exactly, none of the other staff use their school email address
TYO Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Hijacking the thread slightly, was just wondering how many schools actually issue PGCE's laptops. We currently give them logins, emails and limited to access to shared areas and VLE. We have 4 laptops available to loan for lessons but they are complaining they want one each! Granted they need them to teach because every classroom has an IWB and laptop docking station (not fixed computers) but there are plenty of other computers to plan etc on. Some are happy using their own laptops in the classrooms which is great aslong as they plug all the cables back in to the docking station
featured_spectre Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 We dont give them laptops, they can use the PCs we have darted around, with the webmail login page for their emails, and if they need a laptop for the lesson, they use the staff members laptop who is supervising the lesson.
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