SpuffMonkey Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Hi - just had request for proximity access control system to operate 4 external doors here - not really IT but you know how it goes. Anyone got any good/bad experiences? The doors are so far apart, it would be nice if they could be controlled over our network - any recommendations?
carvjo Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 we use Access Control UK - Access Control Systems and Software - it works and can scale up if your system expands..
plexer Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 We use SALTO and it works really well, you have the option of mag lock online doors the same as paxton but also battery handles and even wireless connected battery handles now. We had it installed into reception as part of the schools commitement to safe guarding but it also meant we then had a platfrom that could be used to secure access to the it suites etc... Ben
Willott Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 We use VMAccess (Visitor Management, ID Cards, from Visitor Management Limited UK) - they also do a visitor management system, which means our access control and visitor management are integrated.
glennda Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 Do you use Cunninghams Cashless Catering? They also do door entry which links back to the biostore - then saves having to keep reset the codes when the students find out! Toby
nadeem Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 I can highly recommend MAC Systems - Automatic Gates and Access Control Systems
powdarrmonkey Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 We also use Paxton Net2 kit, and it's genius. The only thing missing is AD integration, but in some ways that's not such a bad thing. There's a C# API though, if you want to cook up your own synchronisation (which I'm considering).
superfletch Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) We also use Paxton Net2 kit, and it's genius. The only thing missing is AD integration, but in some ways that's not such a bad thing. There's a C# API though, if you want to cook up your own synchronisation (which I'm considering). One more vote for Paxton here, we had a guy come in and set it up on 11 doors. The school secretary finds the s/w really intuitive and she had all the passes configured in about an hour. Another great thing is any data relating to the doors is held on the door device itself so you don't need to worry about backing anything up, install the sw and it just scans the network for paxton devices. The software installed really easily (needed .net framework 3.5) and we were told to give the doors static IP's which I've done. No problems as yet and it has been in about a month. Didn't know about the API, but then again I don't know any C# Edited February 10, 2011 by superfletch
gaz350 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 In our new building we have Paxton net2, eastrace managing the cards with AD/cmis integration and another 3rd party working on writing a custom app to get Paxton data back into cmis for e-reg at our 2 entry points.
powdarrmonkey Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Another great thing is any data relating to the doors is held on the door device itself so you don't need to worry about backing anything up, Not so great if the door controller explodes... if you mean "data isn't lost while the server is unavailable", yes - the doors carry on working, and just get updates pushed/events pulled when the server reappears. 1
MatthewL Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Another one here for Paxton. We also use EnGuard from TSSI.
SpuffMonkey Posted February 11, 2011 Author Posted February 11, 2011 Cheers for all those - most helpful.
SpuffMonkey Posted February 11, 2011 Author Posted February 11, 2011 In our new building we have Paxton net2, eastrace managing the cards with AD/cmis integration and another 3rd party working on writing a custom app to get Paxton data back into cmis for e-reg at our 2 entry points. Sounds good - but best of luck with using it for e-reg - we tore our system out for that a while back - it was just too easy to dodge for the kids
RabbieBurns Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 we outsourced it all to CHUBB at my old school 1
superfletch Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Not so great if the door controller explodes... if you mean "data isn't lost while the server is unavailable", yes - the doors carry on working, and just get updates pushed/events pulled when the server reappears. That's what I meant, (and what I said about backups). If the door controller explodes you just get a new one. Easy if you aren't doing anything fancy with them, bloke come out - installs it and changes it over in the s/w, you give it a static IP. However, If you've been working on a linked up system via the API though then I guess that could mean a big rewrite?
shreevie Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 We use the Paxton Net2 system. We have a contract with a local firm to do all the installations and support. The day to day administration is done by our Facilities manager. The only real thing we help with is the networking, maintaining the PC the database runs on and the odd upgrade.
IanT Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 We also use the Net2 software to control doors, simple bit of software.
GrumbleDook Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Give the Brooke Weston Partnership a call and take a trip to see what they use in their schools ... they are only up the road.
TYO Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 We use a fingerprint system from synel reading from our biostore database, i woudnt recommend it as the readers are not that great. hijacking the thread abit i was just wondering how much other schools are locked down? we have two gates set up with auto modes to open automatically at certain times, with grouploops to get out, fingerprint/card reader, fobs and intercom to get in followed by reception doors with auto modes, fingerprint, cards, intercom to get in and RTE button to get out aswell as fingerprint/card access to 5 server/comms rooms in the school. the system uses equipment from synel, jacksons and dorma. it also links in to the fire alarm and inturder alarm system and is getting very difficult to support.
Big_Ted Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 We encounter a lot of door entry systems when people ask us if they can use the same card to log onto a MFD for print/copy release. 9/10 it's a paxton system the site is using. My local college uses it and gave me a quick tour of the product - seemed to do everything you would want.
MatthewL Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 We use the enGuard system with magstripe cards and also program the numbers of these into our MFP solution (PCounter), all works good.
m25man Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 Another Paxton Net2 vote here, it's the primary access control system for my other job. The RF ID cards were big problem at first though, most didn't work but the we found the hole punched in them for the lanyards went right through the Chip! doh...
p858snake Posted April 3, 2011 Posted April 3, 2011 Most companies also offer prepunched versions of their cards to prevent users doing that
dhicks Posted April 3, 2011 Posted April 3, 2011 Can you use Oyster cards for access control? Most people at the school here would already have an Oyster card, and they're easy enough to get hold of if anyone needs one. Would a generic near-field / RF ID card reader be able to read a unique ID from an Oyster card that could be used to identify an individual?
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