Ditto Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 The vaccination curve has stayed pretty flat. Meanwhile https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1408 I've no idea what within that article is being referred to. I've posted a graph before so here is an updated version for the 14 day rolling average for vaccinations. I prefer 14 day over 7 day as it lessens the impact of bank holiday weekends. Are you seriously expecting an exponentially growth rate for vaccinations?
mavhc Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 People = the average person. I was expecting the vaccination rate to increase as new supplies and approvals came online, combined with more sites and more efficient procedures. Once you have one factory working why not build another one? Cheaper than the billions/day it's costing. The link refers to the suppression of information about covid spread in schools.
localzuk Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 There are only so many places and people who can give vaccinations legally. There is a maximum vaccination rate based on that. So, we cannot grow vaccination rates much higher than they are at their peak at the moment because of that. Well, unless we change the law about who can give them, and weaken the safety of doing so. It isn't just about physical vials of vaccine being delivered. 3
Andrew_C Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 The doctor that gave me my second jab said they'd been working continuously without a break for months. (No pedants, not 24/7) and that was winding up last week. So that will reduce capacity. NHS didn't cover themselves with glory, requiring recently retired nurses (who had been training nurses to give injections) to do full training (PREVENT, Working at Height, Fire Safety etc, etc... 40hrs I believe) before they could administer jabs in centers set up for just that, and managed by others.
Ditto Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 People = the average person. I was expecting the vaccination rate to increase as new supplies and approvals came online, combined with more sites and more efficient procedures. Once you have one factory working why not build another one? Cheaper than the billions/day it's costing. The link refers to the suppression of information about covid spread in schools. I'm afraid I can't subscribe to the concept of an 'average' person, we are all unique. Vaccine rates have increased - you can tell I like graphs! I'd love to see a higher increase, but vaccine production doesn't ramp up as easily as we'd all hope. It's worth recalling at the outset the record on developing successful vaccines was not great. Even allowing for emergency actions, what has been achieved is utterly amazing. Pfizer/BIONTech's use of an mRNA based vaccine is in itself quite something - early attempts at this technological approach had poor outcomes and was abandoned by many. Their vaccine is the first ever licensed mRNA vaccine.
Ditto Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 Yesterday was the third highest number of vaccines given on a Sunday since they started.
elsiegee40 Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 NHS didn't cover themselves with glory, requiring recently retired nurses (who had been training nurses to give injections) to do full training (PREVENT, Working at Height, Fire Safety etc, etc... 40hrs I believe) before they could administer jabs in centers set up for just that, and managed by others. A recently retired District Nurse friend of mine has been trying to jump through all the hoops to become a vaccinator since before Christmas and still hasn’t been authorised.
6Foot2 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Had my first vaccination today at about 9:30 (Oxford-AstraZeneca) No noticeable effects yet, except for having to take off my wedding ring: It's normally a 'snug' fit but after the left arm injection, and after about an hour, I was only just able to remove it. I'll leave it off for the next couple of days. I spoke too soon. At about 7:00 - 7:30 last night I started to feel the effects. I spent a bad night and feel terrible this morning: High temperature, I ache everywhere, and a little trouble thinking clearly. Despite all this, I would still recommend anyone having doubts to take the vaccination (naturally) If this is the attenuated version, how much worse might the real one be? 5Foot2 and I had our second vaccinations yesterday, with neither of us suffering any ill effects. Wedding ring is more tightly fitting than previously and has been for weeks: Maybe I'm putting on a bit of weight... 1
StevieM Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 5Foot2 and I had our second vaccinations yesterday, with neither of us suffering any ill effects. I'm glad to hear that; I've got my second dose this afternoon. 1
LeMarchand Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Mme LeMarchand and I had ours over 1/2 term. She was really tired the next day, but I was fine. Managed to book sequential slots at a local chemist - got there 20 mins early in case we had parking problems/there was a queue and got spotted lurking outside and called in.
6Foot2 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Mme LeMarchand and I had ours over 1/2 term. She was really tired the next day, but I was fine. Managed to book sequential slots at a local chemist - got there 20 mins early in case we had parking problems/there was a queue and got spotted lurking outside and called in. According to the staff at the hospital where we were vaccinated, attendance for second vaccinations has been poor overall, with many missed appointments. We were able to walk straight in.
Rob_D Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 5Foot2 and I had our second vaccinations yesterday, with neither of us suffering any ill effects... Lucky git. I looked like death for most of the day after my second one (probably about the same as the first).
elsiegee40 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Just submitted my first return for the COVID-19 Symptom Study Biobank which I was invited to take part in through the ZOE app. I had to extract 5ml of blood from my fingertips… all equipment supplied. It wasn’t as bad as it seemed and the sample is now in the post back to them. 2
Ditto Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 I did the UCL research swab test last week following an invite. I suspect I'd be more comfortable with the blood sample process. Having done just 2 throat swabs, the second was much more unpleasant, so to all of you in schools doing it twice a week, you have my respect!
vikpaw Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Just submitted my first return for the COVID-19 Symptom Study Biobank which I was invited to take part in through the ZOE app. I had to extract 5ml of blood from my fingertips… all equipment supplied. It wasn’t as bad as it seemed and the sample is now in the post back to them. That sounds like a lot. Do you spread it out with 0.5ml per digit, or just gash your thumb and hope you don't bleed out. I'm imagining a device like that game where you put your finger in and randomly get an electric shock, except you actually get clamped, stabbed and squeezed.
elsiegee40 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 That sounds like a lot. Do you spread it out with 0.5ml per digit, or just gash your thumb and hope you don't bleed out. I'm imagining a device like that game where you put your finger in and randomly get an electric shock, except you actually get clamped, stabbed and squeezed. They give you 3 lancets and you try to get it from the ring and/or middle finger of your dominant hand. I only needed to make 2 holes fortunately. 1
Rob_D Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 Why dominant hand? I thought the common practice for medical poking was to use the non-dominant side.
elsiegee40 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Why dominant hand? I thought the common practice for medical poking was to use the non-dominant side. No idea. Just following instructions! Maybe it’s easier to get the blood flowing there. I went out for a brisk walk to get my heart going before I did it as per instructions too. Edited June 9, 2021 by elsiegee40
sonofsanta Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Why dominant hand? I thought the common practice for medical poking was to use the non-dominant side. Oh gods I'd be a disaster at that, I can't do anything with my left hand. I even have to use cutlery the wrong way round because I can't get my left hand to aim a fork at my piehole accurately. 3
StevieM Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Oh gods I'd be a disaster at that, I can't do anything with my left hand. I even have to use cutlery the wrong sensible way round because I can't get my left hand to aim a fork at my piehole accurately. FTFY!! 3
hardtailstar Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Oh gods I'd be a disaster at that, I can't do anything with my left hand. I even have to use cutlery the wrong way round because I can't get my left hand to aim a fork at my piehole accurately. That is the correct way of using cutlery! Fork in the right hand, Knife in the left.... 1
Andrew_C Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 MrsC's left handed daughter eats right handed, and her twin right handed sister eats left handed. We think it is due to watching each other when they were learning. But .... wut?
smurfomatic Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 MrsC's left handed daughter eats right handed, and her twin right handed sister eats left handed. We think it is due to watching each other when they were learning. But .... wut? My brother and I are the same...he's two years older, right handed and eats "backwards". I'm left handed and eat "the right way".
StevieM Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) Before modding happens... I hope I'm not speaking too soon, but other than feeling a bit more tired than usual, this morning, I've not experienced any side effects following yesterday's second jab... EDIT: Oooff! Just about got in there. Edited June 10, 2021 by StevieM
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