malware Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 You haven’t met anyone with Long Covid have you? My daughter’s best friend is a nurse at Great Ormond Street. She went down with covid on Boxing Day. She finally got back to work on a phased return a couple of weeks ago. She isn’t out the other side of this by any means. Also follow Michael Rosen. His symptoms are definitely not in his mind. It’s affected his eyesight among other things. Long covid is far from “mental health problems” What I have read about it suggests that medical practitioners are still learning about it rather than saying it doesn’t exist. You cannot currently make the claim that it isn't in the mind either. When something has no diagnosis criteria and symptoms can be anything and everything and can last a couple of weeks, to a few months. The original point was that long covid would cause the NHS to be overwhelmed, there is zero evidence to suggest that would happen. I do not know anyone who has self-diagnosed long covid, nor would I use their anecdotal experience as evidence. I have heard people claim the vaccine is still making them feel unwell weeks after receiving the jab, do I believe them? No.
witch Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) You haven’t met anyone with Long Covid have you? My daughter’s best friend is a nurse at Great Ormond Street. She went down with covid on Boxing Day. She finally got back to work on a phased return a couple of weeks ago. She isn’t out the other side of this by any means. Also follow Michael Rosen. His symptoms are definitely not in his mind. It’s affected his eyesight among other things. Long covid is far from “mental health problems” What I have read about it suggests that medical practitioners are still learning about it rather than saying it doesn’t exist. Kate Garraway's husband is in a really bad way still after catching COVID a long time ago Long Covid is NOT all in the mind! There are many diseases that have lots of different symptoms that affect people in different ways. EDS and Lupus are the first that come to mind Edited June 2, 2021 by witch 2
malware Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 Kate Garraway's husband is in a really bad way still after catching COVID a long time ago Long Covid is NOT all in the mind! There are many diseases that have lots of different symptoms that affect people in different ways. EDS and Lupus are the first that come to mind I think you're confusing long covid with post-intensive care syndrome, which can be devastating on the body and mind. The videos of people having to learn to walk again are heart-breaking.
elsiegee40 Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 I think you're confusing long covid with post-intensive care syndrome, which can be devastating on the body and mind. The videos of people having to learn to walk again are heart-breaking. @malware shall we agree to disagree with you? Arguing with you is futile. I’m out on this one. 2
witch Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 Yes me too. I'm out too. Personally the thing I am waiting for most is the lifting on indoor rules so that my 91 year old father in law can see his children, grandchildren and great grandchildren all together, or at least more than one group at a time. He is absolutely desperate to have a big family gathering. It would mean the world to him and who knows how much longer he has
stevejp Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 To be selfish for just a moment, I seem to have dodged any issues with side-effects from the second jab - I’m now 33 hours on, and no side effects whatsoever! sorry - I’ll stop being smug now! 4
elsiegee40 Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 To be selfish for just a moment, I seem to have dodged any issues with side-effects from the second jab - I’m now 33 hours on, and no side effects whatsoever! sorry - I’ll stop being smug now! My second AZ jab last Thursday evening resulted in minor itching round the jab site on Saturday afternoon and that was it
6Foot2 Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 My second AZ jab last Thursday evening resulted in minor itching round the jab site on Saturday afternoon and that was it Ah, but can you stick a magnet to it? NOTE: Post DOES include sarcasm! 1
6Foot2 Posted June 3, 2021 Posted June 3, 2021 Link: [stephan Pastis Picture Tweet] My strip from a year ago today, December 29, 2019. Posted on Twitter: 29th of December 2020. 1
LeMarchand Posted June 3, 2021 Posted June 3, 2021 After a weekend of visiting aged in-laws, we decided to break our journey back with a "day off" in Glastonbury. Mask wearing on the street was virtually nil, whilst it wasn't exactly 100% in shops either. It turns out that the town is Anti-Vax/Refusenik Central; presumably Mother Earth will keep them all safe. Don't think that leaving rags like the below lying around is particularly ecologically sound, either. 3
6Foot2 Posted June 4, 2021 Posted June 4, 2021 Link: https://twitter.com/johnrhutchinson/status/1397514279042134016 [Picture Tweet] If they're not using this as a vaccination centre then there is no hope for humanity. 3
mavhc Posted June 5, 2021 Posted June 5, 2021 Positive cases up 46%, deaths up 3.4%. And that 0 deaths in a day is wrong of course, as the figures are backdated from the weekend. We've still not beaten March vaccination 7 days average figures. R number now 1.0-1.2, spreading faster.
6Foot2 Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 Link: Herefordshire councillor turns up to meeting as a hedgehog [Ledbury Reporter] A COUNCILLOR has dressed up as a hedgehog as she was left feeling “prickly” after remote meetings were banned. The stunt saw Coun Yolande Watson wear the hedgehog outfit as she said the move to end decision-making remote meetings was “ridiculous” and was “putting councillors’ lives at risk” during the coronavirus pandemic. The independents councillor for Kerne Bridge, near Ross-on-Wye, said travelling was also creating carbon emissions, with the council previously declaring a climate emergency. A High Court ruling put an end to remote meetings of councils, but Coun Watson also felt the move was reinstating a barrier to people becoming a councillor as it was more difficult to fit in council business around other things. She felt a more flexible approach would open up the door to more people becoming a councillor, with a “significant number of older people who are retired” currently in the role. She added that it also created a divide between councillors and the electorate, only six people are allowed to meet indoors socially under Covid-19 rules, but 53 councillors could meet at the Three Counties Hotel in Belmont Road for the council’s annual general meeting on Friday (May 28). “I am appalled and dismayed the High Court has ruled that from May 7 council meetings in England must take place in person,” she said. She added: “Councillors have been able to work from home which has meant there is less traffic on the road and therefore, less carbon emissions being emitted. Having to travel to attend meetings in-person in the 21st century is so last year.”
Popular Post Ditto Posted June 6, 2021 Popular Post Posted June 6, 2021 Positive cases up 46%, deaths up 3.4%. And that 0 deaths in a day is wrong of course, as the figures are backdated from the weekend. We've still not beaten March vaccination 7 days average figures. R number now 1.0-1.2, spreading faster. You seemed to be obsessed with only publishing negative news. In the UK there is a huge amount of positive news, but on this occasion I won't counter it. What I would say is it you might like to reflect on the impact your publishing style may have on people, particular those who may find the situation challenging to their wellbeing. I have no issue with facts, but a completely unbalanced view being promoted is not helpful. 6
Andrew_C Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) Unbalanced? The figures here are that cases (whilst still low) have gone up 3 fold in a week. Edited June 6, 2021 by Andrew_C
elsiegee40 Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) Unbalanced? The figures here are that cases (whilst still low) have gone up 3 fold. The problem with statistics is how how they are used. If there was only 1 person in your borough with covid last week and the other 3 members of their immediate family go down with it the following week then that looks pretty alarming from a percentage point of view. If they’re good and quarantine properly it may have gone no further. It’s like trying to maintain the 95% attendance requirement in a small school. You only need one or two off long term sick and it completely wrecks the school’s attendance data for the year. Yes, the percentage rise does need to be kept an eye on, but with very small numbers it needs to be looked at in context… not just how many are actually catching it, but how many are hospitalised and how many die. Edited June 6, 2021 by elsiegee40 2
Norphy Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 As the old saying goes, there are lies, damned lies and statistics… 1
Ditto Posted June 6, 2021 Posted June 6, 2021 Unbalanced? The figures here are that cases (whilst still low) have gone up 3 fold in a week. 100% yes - look at the posts. You don't need to be a statistician to see the trend. By contrast, look at the posts in Electric Vehicle thread, equally skewed in the positive. I guess the balance comes from other contributors in both threads. 1
vikpaw Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 As the old saying goes, there are lies, damned lies and statistics… And then there’s the press… BBC on Friday: Two measures show cases are beginning to rise rapidly from a low level in the UK. A survey by the Office for National Statistics found that about 100,000 people tested positive in the week up to 29 May - a rise of two-thirds from 60,000 the week before. Daily reported test results also suggest a sharp rise, with 6,278 confirmed cases on Friday. Increased testing in hotspot areas for the Delta variant first detected in India may exaggerate the rise in daily figures, while hospital admissions and deaths continue to fall. But the ONS data, which is not skewed by how many people come forward for tests, shows there is a genuine increase.
robk Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 Sadly not. Guessing they are still drying it out. With the flooding they had some time ago I am supprised its not been renamed "The Wet Feet"!. - - - Updated - - - Link: https://twitter.com/johnrhutchinson/status/1397514279042134016 [Picture Tweet] [ATTACH=CONFIG]62030[/ATTACH] Sadly not. Guessing they are still drying it out. With the flooding they had some time ago I am supprised its not been renamed "The Wet Feet"!.
mavhc Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 You seemed to be obsessed with only publishing negative news. In the UK there is a huge amount of positive news, but on this occasion I won't counter it. What I would say is it you might like to reflect on the impact your publishing style may have on people, particular those who may find the situation challenging to their wellbeing. I have no issue with facts, but a completely unbalanced view being promoted is not helpful. When people are, for the third time, ignoring the evidence and not stopping the spread, they need more facts. Exponential growth is not understood by most it seems.
mavhc Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 The vaccination curve has stayed pretty flat. Meanwhile https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1408
Ditto Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 When people are, for the third time, ignoring the evidence and not stopping the spread, they need more facts. Exponential growth is not understood by most it seems. [ATTACH=CONFIG]62046[/ATTACH] Could you clarify when the
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