karldenton Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 Hi Just wondering if anyone still uses WSUS? We do updates manually each half term as WSUS is slow on our ageing servers. Was just thinking when we get a new server, whether to use WSUS? We are licensed for Systemcenter too. Or do people use patch management on a 3rd party product. Thanks
themightymrp Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 We still use WSUS, but we are just in the process of getting SCCM up and running so will switch to that.
sted Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 We still use WSUS, but we are just in the process of getting SCCM up and running so will switch to that. dosent sccm just install wsus anyway and basically coopt it to be part of the sccm interface rather than its own entity? 1
witch Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 We use WSUS. It works. So please can someone give me a good reason why we should move to SCCM?
sted Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 We use WSUS. It works. So please can someone give me a good reason why we should move to SCCM? sccm also does all sorts of other stuff. It manages virtual machines allows you to deploy software with reporting and not just straight msi's and I believe not just at startup but when ever you want. You can rebuild pcs without leaving the desk just wol them add a task and they will boot install windows and all their software. Its a massive tool for doing all sorts of jobs and probably overkill for a primary 2
themightymrp Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 Our WSUS system is running on an old physical server, SCCM is all on new VM's. That's the main reason for wanting to switch at the moment. The setup has been done by an external company so I'm not 100% on how it all works as yet.
jmak Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 We use WSUS. It works. So please can someone give me a good reason why we should move to SCCM? We use WSUS too. Apart from time to learn, I believe there's a cost to SCCM?
themightymrp Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 I believe there's a cost to SCCM? This is also true, WSUS is free. There's no reason not to use WSUS if you don't have SCCM setup. Its easy to do and I've used it for years!
JordanT91 Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 As far as I'm aware SCCM is included with the Windows Desktop Education licence bundle we have. I only really use it for software deployment at the moment, still preferring to use WDS and WSUS seperately until I can really get my head around it.
pete Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 We use WSUS and WPP (SCCM-lite). Do you mean the WSUS server itself is slow or the delivery/checking for patches on the clients is slow? Have you given the WSUS database/WSUS itself any TLC recently?
karldenton Posted May 11, 2016 Author Posted May 11, 2016 We use WSUS and WPP (SCCM-lite). Do you mean the WSUS server itself is slow or the delivery/checking for patches on the clients is slow? Have you given the WSUS database/WSUS itself any TLC recently? Its the server itself, they are all slow - writing the replacement spec as we speak.
sparkeh Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 Sccm sits on top of wsus and adds extra features. Well that's one of the many things it does. It's peanuts to licence under OVS-ES and I wouldnt be without it.
CHM-ITServices Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 I still use WSUS. Surely even an ageing server is better/quicker than manually installing updates?
pete Posted May 11, 2016 Posted May 11, 2016 Its the server itself, they are all slow - writing the replacement spec as we speak. If you don't already use it, try this: https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/6f8cde49-5c52-4abd-9820-f1d270ddea61 (Works on SQL 2012 too). Clearing out superseded updates beforehand would help.
DJ-1701 Posted May 12, 2016 Posted May 12, 2016 As far as I'm aware SCCM is included with the Windows Desktop Education licence bundle we have. I only really use it for software deployment at the moment, still preferring to use WDS and WSUS seperately until I can really get my head around it. Sccm sits on top of wsus and adds extra features. Well that's one of the many things it does. It's peanuts to licence under OVS-ES and I wouldnt be without it. Isn't there a cost for the server side as well? Not using SCCM, but using WSUS. Had to reinstall the service at the Primary yesterday as it constantly required me to restart the node and fail over again.
nathan3388 Posted May 12, 2016 Posted May 12, 2016 Still use WSUS at all the sites we manage via sccm handy tool
Norphy Posted May 12, 2016 Posted May 12, 2016 STILL using WSUS? Is there an alternative that I don't know about? Isn't there a cost for the server side as well? Yes, you have to by a System Center license to use it but Microsoft practically give them away to education, especially if you don't manage servers with it and stick to the standard version. 1
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