How much extra time do you put in out of hours?

[Davit2005]

Most of my roles up to now have involved at least 2-4 hours a week as I have been in systems roles. Since changing org and role I have my evenings and weekends back :-) .

[HarryMonkey]

None, I leave here at 4:30 and don't give this place a second thought until I come back in again. Outside of here, my time's my own and it doesn't involve work in any way.

[Snoochieboochies]

Zero - unless i'm paid for it. My time is worth money. The only exception to this is for personal study.

 

I learnt my lesson in my last job. Never again.

[ITGURU]

None, I leave here at 4:30 and don't give this place a second thought until I come back in again. Outside of here, my time's my own and it doesn't involve work in any way.

 

What if you had any major network issues? You wouldn't stop to resolve them?

Uptime is key and do what I need to ensure everything is online.

Edited March 22, 2017 by ITGURU

[kennysarmy]

What if you had any major network issues? You wouldn't stop to resolve them?

Uptime is key and do what I need to ensure everything is online.

 

I'd assume he meant "typical" day.....

[Rob_D]

I guess all the getting on site a couple of minutes early and leaving 5 min or late because I'm in the middle of something I can't leave or just don't notice the time, all adds up to a little under an hour a week.

Feel a little bad, as I'm normally the first one out the office.

[KoolTech]

Any extra time I do, I am allowed to claim back in the form of extra time off during the school holidays so I tend to do a bit extra most weeks which adds up to another week or 2 off in Summer

[maxrebo]

None at all.

We had a network outage recently and went home at normal time and picked it back up in the morning. Got stung before unpaid hours not being remunerated.

 

In a way I wish I could do this, it would be on my mind all night.

[pcstru]

In a way I wish I could do this, it would be on my mind all night.

Like everything, if you can't do it already, it just takes practice!

 

I'll do some extra hours where doing so will make a huge difference - usually making something broken work again. But if I'm always having to work extra to pull in the deadlines then there is a problem elsewhere. If I then point that out to management and they ignore it, then my view is they have decided to live with that as a problem and it is not for me to solve it by constantly depriving myself of the ability to earn additional income - which I am perfectly entitled to do using those very same hours!

[HarryMonkey]

What if you had any major network issues? You wouldn't stop to resolve them?

Uptime is key and do what I need to ensure everything is online.

 

Nope, that's the responsibility of the NM. Likewise, if there was an outage at 2pm on a Sunday afternoon it would wait until Monday.

[synaesthesia]

2-3 hours over a week for me. Used to be a LOT more, however with a massive health scare last year and much cajoling by friends, family and colleagues have started to take my own health more seriously.Time to switch off is absolutely important, and to be honest I think I'm managing time & work better now I actually appear to be more relaxed and doing less out of hours.

[Saladin]

Absolutely zero extra unless I am paid overtime. I did when I first started a few years back but I soon realised that it isn't appreciated at all.

[flyinghaggis]

It would probably be helpful to clarify whether the people spending time outside work are actually working at/for the school or doing training/CPD at home to learn systems the school has rolled out and they're expected to support?

 

For me the main issue isn't so much doing a couple of hours occasionally when something major goes down but the amount of time training/CPD outside work is taking up. There's increasingly a situation at my school where staff are buying in new hardware/software, adopting new cloud systems and third party companies are installing hardware without IT involvement. Rightly or wrongly there's an expectation we should automatically be spending time outside work learning these new systems. Like others have said I've also been suffering health issues from spending too much time sitting at a desk outside work trying to keep up and I've had to scale back.

 

Where do you guys draw the line when it comes to learning new technologies outside work for your employer?

Edited March 22, 2017 by flyinghaggis

[keyboards]

We had this recently where students were using some program and they couldn't do something and somehow the teacher seemed to expect us to know how to use it, as if we know how to use every program etc

[Davit2005]

At one place I worked I stayed till about 7pm on my last day to help them through an internet issue as they had no replacement and they were good to me. I also went back and replaced the SAN for a few pints of Guinness as they were between technicians and also because the IT Manager helped me move house a year earlier.

 

If a place is good to me I'd go out of my way to help if not I will only give the bare minimum extra if I am still on site and it is an emergency but no more. At the end of the day you do not want learning suffering but do not want to be taken the out of.

[speckytecky]

I feel a fool for doing it but even though I'm contracted for under 30 HPW I give a 24/7 365 day a year service. I used to be able to reclaim reasonable OT at time and a half but that got kicked into touch. Any OT now has to be 'sanctioned' and I am allowed to claim back the hours at time-off but never actually get the chance to do so as I always seem snowed under. Maybe this could be moved behind the RD? Edited March 22, 2017 by speckytecky

[kennysarmy]

 

Where do you guys draw the line when it comes to learning new technologies outside work for your employer?

 

Pardon?

[witch]

@speckytecky

You need to stop. Now. Step away from the network.

Claim back at least some of your hours. Spend time with friends and family.

LIFE IS TOO SHORT

Edited March 23, 2017 by witch

[caffrey]

I do work out of hours, doing updates and the like (SIMS) etc. I don't mind doing it and I barely even mention what I do to anyone in the school. Sometimes the school environment makes concentrating on things impossible too e.g. I'm doing some coding and was getting increasingly frustrated at getting a SQL Stored Procedure working - went home and fixed the issue within 30 mins.

I think my worst working out of hours thing was last year when I redid the file server, I robocopied over all the Staff homedrives at (looks at the timestamp of the logs) 25/12/2016 at 11:54am .... Still I pride myself on as little disruption to the network as possible

I think I need to get out more.

[kennysarmy]

I do work out of hours, doing updates and the like (SIMS) etc. I don't mind doing it and I barely even mention what I do to anyone in the school. Sometimes the school environment makes concentrating on things impossible too e.g. I'm doing some coding and was getting increasingly frustrated at getting a SQL Stored Procedure working - went home and fixed the issue within 30 mins.

I think my worst working out of hours thing was last year when I redid the file server, I robocopied over all the Staff homedrives at (looks at the timestamp of the logs) 25/12/2016 at 11:54am .... Still I pride myself on as little disruption to the network as possible

I think I need to get out more.

 

I also do a lot of work for charity

[MarcLister]

Voted more than 5 hours. I work 8am until 4pm and when I lived a long way from work I made sure I left just after 4pm to get the first of two trains home. Sometimes I was genuinely delayed and got the next first train home (every 20 minutes) so not too bad a delay. It was annoying if I left later and got the later first train which was itself delayed as I'd then almost certainly miss the connecting train and would then have another delay for the next train home.

 

Now I've been the Premises Manager as well so I live in the school house which is barely a minute's walk down the drive. This means I've really started to stay late as I haven't far to walk. Today I think I left just after 5pm. I balance up staying later to get things done against going home at 4pm and explaining to the powers that be that I have too much to do in the time I have between 8am and 4pm.

[elsiegee40]

Thread is 14 months old!

[witch]

Yes, it is, but actually I would like to hear what has changed in peoples working practices during that time - has redundancy threats made people work harder or longer hours?

[Joanne]

I know of people who have just started to do their hours and no more as their SLT don't listen or care anymore about their concerns on lack of staffing. They have said that they're not working themselves into the ground for people who couldn't care less.

[MartinT]

My hours are 08:30 - 16:00 but I typically get in around 05:40 in the morning. The pressure of work and long journey are the main contributors. I really need a 2-hour window in which to do maintenance without staff being around and the evenings are no good as it's a boarding school.

 

It's no good me moaning about the SLT as I'm in it!