Is it me or...

[mattx]

....is Backupexec the biggest load of crap since it was taken over and changed by Symantec ?

[Oaktech]

it does seem overly complicated and expensive... It has however been largely reliable for us.

[bwestlake]

i have found that backup exec is reliable yes it may be expensive and their are other cheaper options out their but it has served us well

[siuko]

The software itself is actually quite good... its just dealing with symantec and their VERY strange ways of doing things (such as updates and downloads lol)

[6Foot2]

I must admit that I do not get a reliable backup as there is always some error or other reported.

 

Now I have noticed that folders are getting backed up but not their contents. I am raising a ticket about this now.

 

I used to see this on our old server but I can't remember what the fix was [hope it isn't a re-install]

[SHimmer45]

i user an older version at a primary and its fine, the later versions with symantec branding all over the place does the job but have to see if there is any change in reliability

[Gibbo]

Been using it nearly ten years and never found an issue with it.

[SYNACK]

The CA ArcServe stuff is way worse, you want the definition of needlessly complicated and largely pointless, start there.

[sonofsanta]

Feeling grumbly with Symantec licencing at the moment, our Backup Execs were due and a quote was sent over, including the new line

SYMC DESKTOP LAPTOP OPTION 7.0 WIN 1-10 USERS RENEWAL BASIC 12 MONTHS ACAD BAND S - 2 - 27/11/2012 - £104.44

 

What I said: “Not sure what the desktop line is –we’ve never run that and I don’t recall seeing it before.”

 

What he said: “The desktop laptop option is a new add-on to your Backup Exec server with the 2012 version. It is optional and only useful if you wish to back up PCs and laptops.”

 

What I should have said: “Then why the fsck did you put it onto the quote if I never asked for it and have never expressed an interest in it you money grabbing moron? Did you think I didn’t pay attention to the money I spent? Do you think I actually just believe what sales people tell me? Die in a fire!”

 

Bloody salesmen, not having a good month with them atm.

[twin--turbo]

Appart from some strange tape management issues , I quite like it.

 

Better than DPM.

[sparkeh]

....is Backupexec the biggest load of crap since it was taken over and changed by Symantec ?

Yes, yes it is, but then its in line with every other Symantec product.

[DMcCoy]

It was ok.

 

Assuming anyone still thinking it is hasn't used 2012 yet which is terrible.

[localzuk]

Yup, terrible software. We ran 11d for a while, until our entire catalog corrupted, so we couldn't do any restoration. Their response? Remove backup exec completely and reinstall it all...

 

We since switched to BackupAssist, which is basically just a nice front end for NTBackup and it works perfectly. Encrypted backups in TrueCrypt containers using .bkf files. Easy to restore from, easy to run, easy to edit. And best of all - cheap.

[sparkeh]

It was ok.

 

Assuming anyone still thinking it is hasn't used 2012 yet which is terrible.

Its needlessly complicated.

I am now using Acronis, not saying its perfect but its workflow is: Back up this, to here, with these options, go.

BE is all media sets, devices, backup selections, templates, jobs, blah blah blah.

[tobiasclarity]

Cant complain either, it has been used by us for ages and we have had no problems. I mean put it this way, it serves its purpose!

[glennda]

Backup Exec 2012 is terrible IMHO they have completely ruined it!

[siuko]

Backup Exec 2012 is terrible IMHO they have completely ruined it!

 

Hehe oh dear... the Network Administrator has just installed 2012 this morning and is starting to rant

[andyrite]

Backup Exec 2012 is terrible IMHO they have completely ruined it!

 

It is. I HATE it.

[glennda]

Hehe oh dear... the Network Administrator has just installed 2012 this morning and is starting to rant

 

it is so bad! - Yeah Look we have a half decent product - you all buy it now let us ruin it.

 

Veeam alllllllll the way!!

[zag]

Its much better than Microsoft DPM that's for sure.

 

And your right the new 2012 version of backupexec is awful. The 2010 version is excellent though, been using it for years and it is very reliable.

 

I am looking into something new for Hyper-V though. Possibly Veeam as recommended in another thread on this forum.

[glennda]

I have used previous version of Exec which work fine and are good. But in Virtual only Environments Veeam is brilliant. In terms of both replication and backup.

[rvdmast]

....is Backupexec the biggest load of crap since it was taken over and changed by Symantec ?

Let me put it this way:

Backup Exec is, and always has been, a powerfull but also complicated product. I've used it since version 9 (now on 2012)

and i'm still overwhelmed at times.

That said, we had WAY more bugs/problems when it was still Veritas. Not a month went by where we didnt hav to fix mysterious bugs. Right now its pretty stable and does its job. In fact, a year ago after a disaster, we've succesfully done a complete restore of all our

domain controllers, exchange servers & some member servers within 2 days...

[sidewinder]

Was going to upgrade to 2012 this week...maybe I'll leave it!

[zag]

Does anyone know where to purchase Veeam from?

 

I'd like to test it out as an alternative to backup hyper-v computers.

[pantscat]

I'm using 2010 here and it's fine... I've been using B-Exec for years in fact and have never had any major issues at all.

I think it's pretty straight-forward and does what it says on the tin - it's as complicated as you want it to be really.

 

I also use Veeam to complement it though - and that is truly excellent.

@zag - download a trial of Veeam from their website... then just contact your usual IT resellers for a quote.