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Social media ban for under-16s in UK and action on gaming services and live streaming platforms

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Rob_D

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10 minutes ago, nicholab said:

Also should schools be then putting content on social media?

There are other reasons for school to pull back their SM promo content, but then how do schools promote themselves?

Jobos

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Being a primary, the staff here use YouTube in their lessons and I'm expecting tears when it goes plus I will be joining them as I use Youtube when I need to see how to take a laptop apart but maybe just signing in to Google will be enough to allow it through.

 

kennysarmy

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21 minutes ago, Jobos said:

Being a primary, the staff here use YouTube in their lessons and I'm expecting tears when it goes plus I will be joining them as I use Youtube when I need to see how to take a laptop apart but maybe just signing in to Google will be enough to allow it through.

 

 

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The government is not banning staff use of YouTube!

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timbo343

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I've been thinking about how schools are going to police this especially when there is so much content on Youtube that is educational focused.

 

It might be that Google (Youtube) will have to put stricter content modification / monitoring in place and push further on with Youtube education.

 

Filtering (content modification) policies will become the norm for sites like Youtube.

 

It might be that education establishments get Youtube Premium providing that educational organisations can prove this via user account access.

 

We as gatekeepers can only do so much and the students will no doubt find ways around the blocks that social media companies put in place.

 

I'm not sure if Smoothwall Cloud filter goes as far a Content Modification for youtube, it might be that it is still an on premise feature, maybe @tom_newton can confirm this?

 

We are at rhe mercy of what the social media companies will come up with so I feel it's very much a case of see what happens and we will have to deal with the changes.

David44

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17 minutes ago, kennysarmy said:

 

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The government is not banning staff use of YouTube!

 

It isn't clear at the moment but it seems that they will have to ban YouTube for everyone in the UK until each person proves their age. Whether being signed in to a Google Workspace account that the school has marked as over 18 (or not under 18) counts as robust age verification, we don't know yet.

Davit2005

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1 minute ago, David44 said:

 

It isn't clear at the moment but it seems that they will have to ban YouTube for everyone in the UK until each person proves their age. Whether being signed in to a Google Workspace account that the school has marked as over 18 (or not under 18) counts as robust age verification, we don't know yet.

Currently only under 16's effected for YouTube. People might have their own thoughts on this but this is probably not the forum to air them, lol.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fact-sheet-new-rules-to-protect-children-online/fact-sheet-new-rules-to-protect-children-online

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David44

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8 minutes ago, Davit2005 said:

Currently only under 16's effected for YouTube. People might have their own thoughts on this but this is probably not the forum to air them, lol.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fact-sheet-new-rules-to-protect-children-online/fact-sheet-new-rules-to-protect-children-online

Everyone that goes to youtube.com in the UK will be effected. There is no way they can't be. At best, they will need to sign in where they didn't before, at worst they will need to jump through hoops to prove their age. There will no longer be a frictionless method to visit YouTube to watch a video or have a YouTube video embedded in a post on a site such as edugeek.

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Rob_D

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I'd have thought most people would be signed into a google account already (especially in schools where google workspace seems to be becoming pretty prevelant), but I wonder what percentage of youtube traffic is from non-signed-in users?

itskdog

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17 minutes ago, Rob_D said:

I'd have thought most people would be signed into a google account already (especially in schools where google workspace seems to be becoming pretty prevelant), but I wonder what percentage of youtube traffic is from non-signed-in users?

 

We're a Microsoft school, so mostly signed out on YouTube unless they need us to allow a video, where we give a single account in our free tier Google Workspace account that's used just for that, and to allow a couple of people who have asked to use NotebookLM with school data.

 

Embedded videos in PowerPoint will also break as that will be logged out.

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Jobos

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Reminds me of last year when there was a special assembly. We had an MP, the local councillor and some big wigs from the LA watching and as part of the assembly they were showing a Youtube clip when Youtube stopped working because of the filtering dropping out. After the assembly finished the HT said to me I don't care what it costs get a new internet provider which I did and it's been great ever since.

 

This is the sort of frustration I'm going to be seeing this time next year.

BKGarry

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So, from my very basic understanding, this is to prevent two way communication with strangers etc and constant rolling screens.

 

I could see a new variant of YouTube that if you are not logged in, you are on super restricted mode, no comments, no autoplay and no shorts etc. To access extra content you will need a logged in account that is verified somehow.

Davit2005

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1 hour ago, David44 said:

Everyone that goes to youtube.com in the UK will be effected. There is no way they can't be. At best, they will need to sign in where they didn't before, at worst they will need to jump through hoops to prove their age. There will no longer be a frictionless method to visit YouTube to watch a video or have a YouTube video embedded in a post on a site such as edugeek.

They probably will but over 16s won't be blocked.

 

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2. What is changing and what’s banned?

We plan to use the same model for a social media ban as Australia. Their model included platforms like Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, Snapchat, Facebook and X. 

We do not intend for messaging services like WhatsApp and Signal to be included in the social media ban.

High-risk features including livestreaming and strangers being able to contact children will also be restricted for under‑16s on other online services like gaming.

This will be backed up by stronger requirements for age checks on platforms.

 

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ICTDirect_Joe

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15 minutes ago, BKGarry said:

I could see a new variant of YouTube that if you are not logged in, you are on super restricted mode, no comments, no autoplay and no shorts etc.

I feel like an education UI for YouTube that worked like this would be an excellent addition - better still if you could still have this available while logged in with ads removed

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Rob_D

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11 minutes ago, BKGarry said:

I could see a new variant of YouTube that if you are not logged in, you are on super restricted mode, no comments, no autoplay and no shorts etc.

TBF there are probably a lot of people who would pay for that setup.

But I very much doubt they'll be changing anything on yt just because the current UK govt dropped some legislation (that odds are the next govt will remove/change).

 

Davit2005

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2 minutes ago, Rob_D said:

TBF there are probably a lot of people who would pay for that setup.

But I very much doubt they'll be changing anything on yt just because the current UK govt dropped some legislation (that odds are the next govt will remove/change).

 

Given that UK are following the Australian model I wonder if EU members will follow. One thing I have to concern with is where this ID will be collected, will it be more secure than some third party somewhere that can sell this data on or misuse it.

Rob_D

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8 minutes ago, Davit2005 said:

One thing I have to concern with is where this ID will be collected, will it be more secure than some third party somewhere that can sell this data on or misuse it.

The governemnt doc, does say that things like having a 16+ year old account and having a credit card attached to your account would be allowed for age verification. And they're still talking about using AI "age guessers" on photos/videos.

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ICTDirect_Joe

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12 minutes ago, Rob_D said:

The governemnt doc, does say that things like having a 16+ year old account and having a credit card attached to your account would be allowed for age verification. And they're still talking about using AI "age guessers" on photos/videos.

Lets hope AI can guess ages better than it can manage (delete) email inboxes

sigma

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What has been announced makes no reference or consideration to schools and edtech or how they will function where used as CDN's.  I'm hoping there will be some clarification from the DfE, though I am not optimistic.

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stevewill6

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Im trying to work out as it stands how this will effect us so i can brief SLT as spring is not exactly far away. 

 

We have only recently allowed KS4 pupils access to Youtube in school - I am asuming this will need to now be removed?

 

Pupil focused content on SM platforms will need to be stopped from Spring 2027

 

We have a few instagram profiles for departments to comunicate with pupils all these will need to close. 

Probably have to look to shift focus from our SM platforms to the school website as the main online communication channel for pupils. 

 

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