LeMarchand Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Endorsements in the United Kingdom general election, 2015 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Thanks, that's an interesting read. Good to see that Captain Picard/Professor X and Doctor Who lean the same way as me! 1
Disease Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Um, do you know anything about Russia? If you did I assume you wouldn't make that statement. Um, do you know anything about humor? If you did I assume you wouldn't make that statement. 1
Bezwick Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Yeah because the Telegraph is known for its un-bias reporting. Venzuela is the new example of a Socialist Paradise! Venezuela's 'socialist paradise' turns into a nightmare: medical shortages claim lives as oil price collapses - Telegraph
tmcd35 Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Socialism is proven not to work Capitalism is proven not to work Maybe there's a third way...Third Way - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
sonofsanta Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Endorsements in the United Kingdom general election, 2015 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Ha, I can't see UKIP being happy with the individual endorsements they got Richard Desmond, publisher, adult industry businessman[37] Nick Griffin, former leader of the British National Party, former MEP[38] Tommy Robinson, former leader and founder of the English Defence League, founder of the European Defence League, former Vice Chairman of British Freedom Party[39] Two racists and a pornographer. I'm convinced!
sparkeh Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Um, do you know anything about humor? If you did I assume you wouldn't make that statement. Oh I see. I was thrown as the rest of us were having an interesting, mature debate and took your post as an addition to that debate. Duly noted. Back to topic, Venzuela's problem's are very sad indeed but I would suggest that its problems are more related to the inherent dangers on basing your economy on needing a particular oil price to function than socialism.
localzuk Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Thinking a little more about respect (thanks @localzuk), we might do well to consider the subtle differences. We do not have to respect a view (that respect could be won by good argument) , but we should respect the poster, _all_ of the readers of our posts and the forum - Edugeek. In the main I think Edugeek these days is generally quite polite and respectful, this thread could be a reasonable example of that given that the subject is likely to bring out views that live at opposite ends of a spectrum on a subject (or a range of issues) which people will feel genuinely passionate about. I think we're mixing 2 things up. Respect is still earned, 100% in my mind. It is a feeling. Being respectful is akin to being polite. It is an action. I don't "respect" people on Edugeek, or in my workplace, unless they have done something to earn that respect. However, I behave in a respectful/polite manner towards all people unless they've done something to deserve differently. Also, respecting someone doesn't mean I like them either.
elsiegee40 Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I think there is a subtle difference between respecting the rules of an establishment such as a school and having respect for the employee enforcing those rules. The former should be respected by everyone in the school. The latter may have to work gain the respect of the students, but failure to earn that respect by that indivual is not a reason to fail to respect the establishment rules.... if you get what I mean
tmcd35 Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Time to stop the Troy bashing. They've announced a policy I actually agree with: George Osborne to outline city devolution plan for England - BBC News As always not sure about how they're going about it, but devolution of power locally is always a good thing.
sted Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Time to stop the Troy bashing. They've announced a policy I actually agree with: George Osborne to outline city devolution plan for England - BBC News As always not sure about how they're going about it, but devolution of power locally is always a good thing. it does seem odd though that 2 years ago Manchester said no we don't want an elected mayor and now they are ignoring that vote and doing it anyway
localzuk Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 One thing that we might see as a result of devolution of power to cities is privatised transport might disappear. Some cities have already complained that the private system isn't working for public transport so this might help them towards bringing it back in house as a public service!
LosOjos Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Time to stop the Troy bashing. They've announced a policy I actually agree with: George Osborne to outline city devolution plan for England - BBC News As always not sure about how they're going about it, but devolution of power locally is always a good thing. Can we all agree that we're policy bashing? I don't disagree with everything the Tories do, likewise I don't agree with everything Labour/Green do, but my political leanings are more in the way of Labour/Green. Doesn't mean you have to hate everything the Tories do (likewise, one good policy does not negate all the bad!) EDIT: also, let's wait and see how it's implemented. When Progress 8 was first announced, I was all for it as a way of removing the C/D barrier to education (i.e. if a student isn't in that bracket, they are far less likely to receive the tuition they need as they're either seen as incapable or safe on the 5 A*-C measure). Then they released details that looked good at first. Then they revised those details so that now we're in a position where the bottom end of the table need to make huge progress compared to the top in order to be deemed to be making expected progress. So what went from "Yay! Everyone is equally important in the school results!" is now "focus on the low attainers, the higher attainers will be fine". So we're just failing a different band of kids now instead. Edited May 14, 2015 by LosOjos
sted Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 One thing that we might see as a result of devolution of power to cities is privatised transport might disappear. Some cities have already complained that the private system isn't working for public transport so this might help them towards bringing it back in house as a public service! I suspect as the owner of stagecoach (one of the bigger if not the biggest) bus operator in this country is a big tory donor (I believe) this wont happen. From what I remember it was removed from them as people who didn't use public transport objected to paying for it (though im sure that the subsidies given out are more than it would cost for it to be run by the council anyway)
witch Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 One thing that we might see as a result of devolution of power to cities is privatised transport might disappear. Some cities have already complained that the private system isn't working for public transport so this might help them towards bringing it back in house as a public service! We can only hope...
localzuk Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I suspect as the owner of stagecoach (one of the bigger if not the biggest) bus operator in this country is a big tory donor (I believe) this wont happen. From what I remember it was removed from them as people who didn't use public transport objected to paying for it (though im sure that the subsidies given out are more than it would cost for it to be run by the council anyway) If the powers for transport are devolved to the councils, then it would be up to those councils wouldn't it? They can listen to Stagecoach if they wish, or they can listen to their citizens and do what's best. That'd be up to them.
sted Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 If the powers for transport are devolved to the councils, then it would be up to those councils wouldn't it? They can listen to Stagecoach if they wish, or they can listen to their citizens and do what's best. That'd be up to them. IF I suspect vested interests could put a lot of pressure on to see that they arnt devolved in the first place donors and lobbyists have a lot more influence with elected officials than the general public do
6Foot2 Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 ...Doesn't mean you have to hate everything the Tories do (likewise, one good policy does not negate all the bad!)... Sounds like a paraphrase of the 11th Doctor: The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
LosOjos Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Sounds like a paraphrase of the 11th Doctor: I don't watch Doctor Who (shock! horror!) but he's clearly a very sensible... man?
Andrew_C Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I suppose devolving power to cities is good... but does that outweigh the scrapping of the "Human Rights Act"? It seems they want to do this to ban us from protesting, and to control preachers who stir the populace up. Like these two trouble makers:-
Garacesh Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 man? For now, but regenerating into a new gender has been discussed (and has been canonically written as possible) I do wonder what will happen to anybody trying to start a revolution, though. Will they be "silenced" under this new law? If they are, that will probably serve only to fuel the fire..
LosOjos Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Will they be "silenced" under this new law? If they are, that will probably serve only to fuel the fire.. Thanks, now I have this stuck in my head
6Foot2 Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Thanks, now I have this stuck in my head ... Chew gum? Link: Get rid of the song stuck in your head with chewing gum, scientists say - Science - News - The Independent
Garacesh Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 No, no, what you need is a 'mind bleach' song.. A song that gets stuck in your head that actually like. Mnah mnah, do dooo doo doo dooo 1
LeMarchand Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I'm not sure about this whole "power to the cities" idea. Where I work might as well be renamed to Capita City; can't see that it would be great if they had even more power.
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