paulkerton

Education Standard is a licensed product. Education Fundamentals is the free tool. Therefore you can restrict access to company owned devices, because you are licensed. https://edu.google.com/intl/ALL_uk/workspace-for-education/editions/compare-editions/ Even if that was the case that it's available for free, it still doesn't negate the fact that IP based restrictions are a very bad way to manage 2SV

Why is it a complete no go? That's a bit like saying I want to move to an electric vehicle, but I don't want batteries, I want a combustion engine powering the electric motors

Yes, but it's only available in the licensed Google Workspace, requires them to be "company owned devices" which means staff and students won't be able to use personal devices (which will generate complaints) and as I've previously said : Location based on IP is not, for me anyway, a very secure way of enforcing (or not in this case) 2SV anyway. It's a moot point anyway, in that you can buy Yubikeys for staff and apparently students are not considered under Cyber Essentials.

Does this explain why it all seemed to fall over this morning for a few hours?

57% of secondary schools use Dahua or Hikvision. This may prove to be very costly!

But we also have to be aware that IP addresses can be spoofed and we all have resourceful children who will be able to that, or that your ISP behaviour when it comes to your IP addresses is less than sub-optimal. Ours can switch and change between addresses mid-session and cause Google to suspect bot usage! I would say that whitelisting IP is somewhere you are, rather than something you have or something you know. It also makes it easier for children to access staff accounts on-site because they don't need that second factor. Is it though? Safeguarding is ultimately their responsbility too, but if the safeguarding lead in a school makes a decision that is to the detriment of the school and someone who should be being safeguaded, its' like not the Head/CEO who gets the chop.

Meanwhile I think Citizen Kane is overrated navel gazing and ESOTSM it's one of the greatest films of the 21st Century so far - but each to their own.

I didn't say I agree with the phone ban thing, but many schools do it. Even with staff... when you point out that phons being banned means a few thousand pound on 2FA keys, teeth get sucked like a plumber looking over a dodgy boiler. In 14 year olds who can't stop themselves doing really stupid stuff even when they know they're in plain site of a CCTV camera?

The thing is, the only reason we still really use cables for smart phones is charging, and wireless charging is quickly catching up. So, the idea that we are going to need innovations like a USB-D when USB-C is already capable of 10Gbps transfer rates and 240W of power delivery right now seems to me to be a little bit of drama for drama's sake. Standardisation is a good thing for everyone.

Avoid running browsers on servers at all tbh.

I'll vouch for Wave 9 here too. Whenever I've worked with them I've been very pleased with the outcome!

Ok... so are they accounting for the Government's desire to see all schools ban mobile phones. I know they're not going to do it legislatively, but they do want that ban in place done from the position of Headteacher... Are they accounting for 5 year olds accessing solutions? When they say all users, do they mean staff or students also?

OBS, especially if you want to do some PiP things.

Not really. You have 8 years of support time, preannounced. They will still work, they just won't be supported or get updates. If a piece of kit survives education for more than 5 years, we should be carrying the manufacturer through the streets on our shoulders and offering them the keys to the town and city! Sellers should be making it clear at the point of purchase how long a device is supported for, and shouldn't be selling devices with little time left. If they don't, then shame on them.

The Dell 3180 Chromebook came out in February 2017. That's 5 years and 4 months. All devices since 2020 have 8 years support now too by the way.

No, I can't say I have personally! Reports always take a while (obviously, they require a lot of grunt) but day-to-day performance has been fine for me.

We have Bromcom, so we have a accessibility built in, but it still requires us to keep separate tracking data available on our intranet too.

Keep it backed up. When it does start to go, they will invest. It's exactly what I had to do at an old role. No money, until the HDDs started to fail and magically they took a move to the cloud for files for students, and found the cash to replace kit for the staff side of things.

Of course, he could cite Data Protection Act 2018.

Which Synology solution are people using? HD6500? RS series?

It's difficult to say, because we still have the existing equipment currently, but we're not running as many virtualised server instances anymore. We still have some legacy stuff in place but print servers, a lot of our file storage is no more and there is a lot less resource wise being used for those things that are still on-site.

I assume that's the top figure for a company of 10 or so people... because 10,000 users is £180,000 a year at that rate.

This is just moving where your servers sit. In some cases, that makes sense - but for the vast majority of use you want to be moving away from servers and moving to service infrastructure. File servers in the cloud when you've got OneDrive or Google Drive? No thanks.

SIMS holding back schools? As I live and breathe... /s

You might want to rethink this: https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/12158207?hl=en&ref_topic=9178690