oalcock Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I believe you haven't calculated that correctly... I bought a 2009 one for my other half to learn to drive in costing £99 a month, with the outright price being £5000. In a 107 currently with the fuel prices, on a 1.0 engine you're getting 100 miles for £11 exactly, whereas on an old 1.0 corsa that I used to have it cost £18 exactly (working it out with todays fuel prices). So monthly saving of £28 to start with meaning monthly cost of £71. Then a saving from £120 a year road tax to £20 a year, so £100 saving meaning monthly cost of £64. If I were to insure the 107 over the old corsa I would save £300 a year on insurance so 300 / 12 = 25 so 64 - 25 = £39 a month. So for £39 a month we have a nice newish reliable low mileage car.
oalcock Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Sorry, the outright price £4500 with £99 a month and £400 deposit.
pcstru Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) I assumed you were talking about a new car, since you started your post with "Owning a house and spending money on your house is more cost effective than a new car!". But your calcs ignore depreciation vs investment and you are anyway £39 a month worse off, £480 a year. BTW, fuel economy is hugely influenced by the way you drive. Edited September 7, 2012 by pcstru
Earthling Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I'm seriously thinking of buying a Z3 in the next couple of months. Anyone had one or got any horror stories or recommendations? Although I've just seen a couple XJS's on Autotrader that quite took my eye.
twin--turbo Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 XJ's are lovely when they are in fine fettle and a wallet muncher if not. Rob
2097 Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 I'm seriously thinking of buying a Z3 in the next couple of months. Anyone had one or got any horror stories or recommendations? Although I've just seen a couple XJS's on Auto-trader that quite took my eye. I had the 1.8 version of the z3 , as long as u have a good independent BMW place near you i would say there not bad to run . If all you have are BMW garages , then forget it .. When my airbag module went , they charged me £50 for a diagnostic ( even though i had done one ) , and then told me what i already knew and basically said at a guess we think its the seat-belt pretension-er.. I said i doubt that's the problem as you cant even get a connection to the module to give up a error code , so its either wiring to the module or the module its self . So took it to a independent garage and £75 later i had a whole new airbag control module. ( By the way the reason it broke was my fault as i shorted it out with a stereo hideaway box on top of it ! ) go for the facelift version also ..
twin--turbo Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 I'm seriously thinking of buying a Z3 in the next couple of months. Anyone had one or got any horror stories or recommendations? Get an S2000. You will never regret buying one over a Z3 but the converse........ TT
zag Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 The s2000 is a beautiful car for sure http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AmfuUta5CpA/Tj5CI6Ib9iI/AAAAAAAAAhQ/4fFjNOpoTY4/s1600/2005_honda_s2000-pic-56495.jpeg
Earthling Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Nope, don't do it for me like a Z3 does. Not even a Z4 does it for me like a Z3 does.
SYNACK Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 Nope, don't do it for me like a Z3 does. Not even a Z4 does it for me like a Z3 does. A Z3 does not rev out to 9000RPM stock on a 2L engine, 9500RPM if you tweak it and are a tad crazy I am currently looking for another car as I have used up my Vectra, I have yet to find anything in my price range, in a manual of that size that does not handle like a barge or a coffin. I still have a rubbish car as I can't find a better one
Earthling Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 A Z3 does not rev out to 9000RPM stock on a 2L engine, 9500RPM if you tweak it and are a tad crazy I am waaaay past revving anything up to 9500 or even 9000. I want to drive round in a car I like the look of, a car that I can drive with the top down and a car that I've not had before. I've had a 'Hot Hatch', a ****-off big limousine, a coupe and a few 'family' saloons. Never had a two-seater, roadster or sports-car (whatever you wanna call them). Ideally, I'd like a single-seater, then I can't give anyone a lift, I can't ferry the grandkids about and it's pointless of people to ask me to run errands for them.
Guest Guest Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 I am waaaay past revving anything up to 9500 or even 9000. I want to drive round in a car I like the look of, a car that I can drive with the top down and a car that I've not had before. I've had a 'Hot Hatch', a ****-off big limousine, a coupe and a few 'family' saloons. Never had a two-seater, roadster or sports-car (whatever you wanna call them). Ideally, I'd like a single-seater, then I can't give anyone a lift, I can't ferry the grandkids about and it's pointless of people to ask me to run errands for them. Best move I ever made. No lifts anywhere, no "can you pick us up from the pub", no "fancy helping me move this large piece of furniture"... DO IT!!
JJonas Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 I am waaaay past revving anything up to 9500 or even 9000. I want to drive round in a car I like the look of, a car that I can drive with the top down and a car that I've not had before. I've had a 'Hot Hatch', a ****-off big limousine, a coupe and a few 'family' saloons. Never had a two-seater, roadster or sports-car (whatever you wanna call them). Ideally, I'd like a single-seater, then I can't give anyone a lift, I can't ferry the grandkids about and it's pointless of people to ask me to run errands for them.
Gibbo Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 When my airbag module went , they charged me £50 for a diagnostic ( even though i had done one ) That's actually quite reasonable. Peugeot charge £80 +VAT for theirs.
sted Posted September 10, 2012 Posted September 10, 2012 [ATTACH=CONFIG]15108[/ATTACH] I wouldnt like to use one on a busy road but they are fun
CAWJames Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Right, Passed test 28th December 1998 K Reg 1.8 Fiesta diesel Old X Reg Landrover Series 3 109(Daisy) E Reg Landrover Ninety(Discovery engine and a few tweaks) E Reg Landrover 110 Hi-Cap(Fully rebuilt TombRaider replica, although without the roof rack and stays, could never afford them H Reg Honda Beat(Little red motorbike engined 2 seater convertible with zebra stripe seats, so much fun!) 52 Reg MGZR diesel plus model(My only brand new car, and probably the last) J Reg Landrover Discovery Tdi J Reg Landrover Ninety Tdi Soft-top(all liveryed up to look like a racer!!) 2 x Something Reg Ford Granada Ghia 2.0 Auto(Don't ask, needed cars sharpish after crashes and bad luck) N Reg BMW 325TDS(mmmmm shiny) X Reg Landrover 88 54 Reg Landrover Freelander Tdi Sport(WORST MISTAKE EVER) A Reg Landrover Ninety V Reg Ford Focus 1.8 estate 54 Reg Skoda Octavia Lauren and Klement 1.9Tdi estate(Current car, and for £1500 was a complete bargain. I thought about new cars the other day, and I'd rather spend money on this one, than anything else, love it!) This list does not include cars I have bought for wanging around the farm tracks!
jamesb Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Well let's see. 29, and until recently had an 60-reg toyota iQ until I decided to sell it, trading it for an annual season ticket travel card and a small wodge of cash. Now I never get asked for lifts, don't have to worry about petrol, insurance or servicing, can mostly travel for free (unless I'm going outside zone 6) and can read or nap while travelling (unless I'm cycling, obviously). Bit of a pang when I got rid of it, but I feel so much better now.
sted Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Well let's see. 29, and until recently had an 60-reg toyota iQ until I decided to sell it, trading it for an annual season ticket travel card and a small wodge of cash. Now I never get asked for lifts, don't have to worry about petrol, insurance or servicing, can mostly travel for free (unless I'm going outside zone 6) and can read or nap while travelling (unless I'm cycling, obviously). Bit of a pang when I got rid of it, but I feel so much better now. great if you live in london and your public transport is heavily subsidised by everyone else round here its just poor
jamesb Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 great if you live in london and your public transport is heavily subsidised by everyone else round here its just poor Heavily subsidised? Are you aware of what an annual season ticket in London costs? If it's subsidised, it's not so much that any normal user would notice. Can I argue that cars are great if you don't live in the south east and your roads are heavily subsidised by non-drivers?
kernewek-sam Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Right, Passed test 28th December 1998 K Reg 1.8 Fiesta diesel Old X Reg Landrover Series 3 109(Daisy) E Reg Landrover Ninety(Discovery engine and a few tweaks) E Reg Landrover 110 Hi-Cap(Fully rebuilt TombRaider replica, although without the roof rack and stays, could never afford them H Reg Honda Beat(Little red motorbike engined 2 seater convertible with zebra stripe seats, so much fun!) 52 Reg MGZR diesel plus model(My only brand new car, and probably the last) J Reg Landrover Discovery Tdi J Reg Landrover Ninety Tdi Soft-top(all liveryed up to look like a racer!!) 2 x Something Reg Ford Granada Ghia 2.0 Auto(Don't ask, needed cars sharpish after crashes and bad luck) N Reg BMW 325TDS(mmmmm shiny) X Reg Landrover 88 54 Reg Landrover Freelander Tdi Sport(WORST MISTAKE EVER) A Reg Landrover Ninety V Reg Ford Focus 1.8 estate 54 Reg Skoda Octavia Lauren and Klement 1.9Tdi estate(Current car, and for £1500 was a complete bargain. I thought about new cars the other day, and I'd rather spend money on this one, than anything else, love it!) This list does not include cars I have bought for wanging around the farm tracks! I'm sensing you like Landrover's, if I could afford it I'd try a Disco 3 or a Defender.
sted Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Heavily subsidised? Are you aware of what an annual season ticket in London costs? If it's subsidised, it's not so much that any normal user would notice. Can I argue that cars are great if you don't live in the south east and your roads are heavily subsidised by non-drivers? bus/rail cards arnt cheap up here. Last time i used a bus it cost about £5 to go to town and back. £10 on a oyster and i did many more miles and still have loads left MetroCard - bus travel and rail zones 1-5 | MetroCard | Metro £35 a week for west yorkshire and nothing like the service of the underground
jamesb Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 bus/rail cards arnt cheap up here. Last time i used a bus it cost about £5 to go to town and back. £10 on a oyster and i did many more miles and still have loads left £57.40 for a weekly season ticket for me, purely between home and work without any travelcard benefits. It's not cheap anywhere. There was a reason I only bought an annual one after selling the car.
mossj88 Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 EEEEEE bought a new car, picking her up at the weekend... Ford Modeo ST220, 56,000 miles, £3,675 Petrols going to be a bit pricey but I'm not planning to commute in it, more a weekend car.
twin--turbo Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 Tidy.. The 220 has a good powerplant. Hopefully your Mono will be more enjoyable than mine. My mechanic says he has something to try that may well improve my TDCI running. Still thinking of a 3.0 S-Type which is the same basic engine as the 220 but installed in the correct orientation TT
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