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jamesfed

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Just to clear any misunderstandings up the Tablet UI can be made the default but can veryyy easily be turned off in favour of the desktop UI - I can well imagine that Microsoft will create a GPO to turn this off (and make it hidden like you can with Media Centre) anyway.

 

Personally as a Windows Phone 7 user this does look very good and would be something compelling for me to have a look at another Tablet PC (ex Asus R2H owner here!) especially if someone can make something like the Acer Icona with a AMD Fusion processor and some SSD inside :)

DrCheese

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Just to clear any misunderstandings up the Tablet UI can be made the default but can veryyy easily be turned off in favour of the desktop UI - I can well imagine that Microsoft will create a GPO to turn this off (and make it hidden like you can with Media Centre) anyway.

 

Yeah, I think I've seen a GPO screenshot somewhere saying that. But for the moment, the start menu is dead in the current builds.

jamesfed

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Where? the button is still there but it doesn't launch the start menu as we know it. The dev build is out at 3am so we'll know tomorrow :p

 

Sorry just saw the video - my best bet however is that this is the PC on 'tablet mode' and that when switched to 'desktop mode' you would get the normal start menu as we all know and love (well semi!).

 

Either way as you said all guess work till the preview is out.

Arthur

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From AnandTech...

 

Overall Windows 8 is extremely jarring right now from a desktop user perspective. Metro is the Windows shell, no ifs ands or butts. Metro applications can only be accessed through the Metro shell (i.e. the Start Screen), and the Metro shell is always what the tablet will boot up into. Explorer as we know it is the Metro shell – if you kill it, you kill Metro shell with it – so at this time it’s not possible to boot up into the traditional Windows desktop. Even if you could, the Start Menu is gone, replaced with Metro charms.

 

So what we’re really evaluating is the ability to use the Metro shell and Metro applications with a mouse. For all the good Microsoft has done implementing multi-touch, the mouse has clearly suffered as it currently stands. Click & drag does not operate the same as tap & drag, which creates some oddities when you want to scroll around. In fact scrolling is probably the biggest oversight right now, as the Metro style dictates applications are laid out left-to-right rather than top-to-bottom. The mouse wheel will (slowly) scroll through tiles on the Start Screen, but in other places such as the Microsoft BUILD application the mouse wheel is useless. In its place you have to drag a scroll bar around, which is about as fun as it was prior to mice coming with a wheel. (Source)

Arthur

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Huh? It's just a £999 Samsung Series 7 700T tablet with Windows 8 pre-installed instead of Windows 7. :confused:

 

The fondleslab is rather curiously named the Samsung Windows 8 Developer Preview PC – no mention of the word tablet – and it's unlikely to see the light of day as a commercial product. But it provides some interesting insights into what kind of tabler Microsoft would like to see people using.

 

It's noisy and hot too. :(

 

All of the above sections should give you a solid look at what Windows 8 is shaping up to be, but what about the hardware? While we got a look at the OS running on a few laptops and all-in-ones during the press preview meeting, we’ve spent most of the time testing the OS on the Samsung Developer Preview tablet. Powered by a 1.6GHz Core i5-2467M processor and a 64GB solid state drive, the system is absolutely no slouch on performance — everything from scrolling in the browser to the Start screen is extremely speedy and the system boots incredibly quickly. However, fan noise is very noticeable, as is the heat coming out of the top vent, and a fast boot doesn’t excuse the slow wake-up times compared to ARM-based cellphones and tablets. (Source)
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localzuk

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Well, this being such an early version, no doubt things will change. However, they really have to remember that their main market is business, not home users or tablets. Developing something that works great on tablets is a good idea, but not at the expense of the bread and butter 'desktop' machines that hundreds of millions of employees use every day in the office.
AngryTechnician

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Notice the data-deduplication role. :)

I had a feeling that might be coming ever since they made the iSCSI Target a free download. This kills off Windows Storage Server as a separate SKU. No bad thing as far as I'm concerned.

gshaw

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I had a feeling that might be coming ever since they made the iSCSI Target a free download. This kills off Windows Storage Server as a separate SKU. No bad thing as far as I'm concerned.

 

gshaw likes this!

 

Although I could see why Storage Server was locked to OEM from a business point of view it always seemed such a waste of potential, especially with many file servers virtualised now so this is one feature to look forward to on Server 8 :D

 

As for the desktop OS... I don't want the tablet interface on anything without a touch screen so MS please be sensible and keep the Windows 7 desktop \ Start Menu as an option...

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Quackers

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How the hell do you exit a program on Windows 8, its driving me potty. If i press the Windows key it just switches between applications. Edited by Quackers
bondbill2k2

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Its more of an overlay for windows 7 then a new OS IMO. At 3:05 he shows a normal windows 7 (what looks like it anyway) at the click of a button, reminds me of windows media center, looked neat but never used it over windos media player and a standard desktop UI but when used on a TV as a media station I can see its advantage, this looks great for a tablet but its nothing new its already on windows mobile devices which I really like but im yet to try one myself.
SYNACK

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From what I have heard they still need a better way to launch and switch between apps in desktop mode. Sure the tablet stuff will be great on the .01% of machines that have touch screens but multimonitered desktops will be seriously gimped without proper consideration. I think someone needs to throw a chair bacck at Balmer with some notes for improvement on it.
ZeroHour

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From what I have heard they still need a better way to launch and switch between apps in desktop mode. Sure the tablet stuff will be great on the .01% of machines that have touch screens but multimonitered desktops will be seriously gimped without proper consideration. I think someone needs to throw a chair bacck at Balmer with some notes for improvement on it.

 

Alt+tab works as normal and the taskbar is still there in desktop mode. Touch can use swipe gestures to switch apps.

 

Ars thoughts: Hands-on with Windows 8: it's good stuff on the PC, too

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zag

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That windows 8 server theme looks like it comes from the Windows 98 monochrome theme!!

 

My eyes are bleeding just looking at all that white :)

K.C.Leblanc

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Windows 8.........hmmmmmmm......

 

I get it (finally) - each of Microsoft's incarnations of Windows is the equivalent in child years so by the time Windows 21 is released we might have a half decent operating system that is starting to take things seriously.......?

 

[walks off muttering under his breath]

 

That does explain why Windows 95 was slow and had difficulty understanding new technology.

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