Arthur Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 gshaw likes this! Even more impressive is that data stored in memory or transferred over the network also gets deduplicated... Memory deduplication allows identical pages in memory to be shared. In normal desktop usage, this doesn't happen too often—most of the information stored in RAM is different, as it all belongs to different applications. But that's no longer the case when running multiple virtual machines; each virtual machine will have its own copy of the operating system, applications, and so on, and these will tend to be identical across the virtual machines. Sharing that memory allows the host to reclaim hundreds or thousands of megabytes of memory. (Source) Windows Server 8 can dedup files within a VHD file. So If you have some VHD files with all a Windows Server 8 installation on it identical files will be deduped to save storage! This will also happen when you copy a number of files between two Windows Server 8 host the network stack will do dedupping as well. (Source).
localzuk Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 That sounds good for Remote Desktop Services too then!
Arthur Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 New blog post from Microsoft on the design of the Windows 8 Start screen... blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/04/designing-the-start-screen.aspx In Windows 8, the Start screen is not just a replacement for the Windows 7 Start menu but a bringing together of several different ways of navigating your machine. Even in Windows 7, people who are proficient with Windows are already replacing the Start menu with the taskbar for their frequently used desktop apps. For people using mostly desktop apps, the Start screen complements the functionality of the taskbar. Using both together, you have instant access to your most frequently used apps combined with a more powerful way to launch your less frequently used apps (through search or by grouping items on the Start screen). And, for Metro apps, Live tiles transform the Start screen into a dashboard that helps you stay up to date and connected in a high quality experience substantially improved over the notification tray. The new experience offers a way to more efficiently launch apps, stay connected to the most relevant information from apps, and find the things you care about. It also lets you launch and switch quickly between your apps and specific locations within those apps all without sacrificing performance or draining the battery of a laptop or tablet PC.
RabbieBurns Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 i don't like the fact they are removing the start menu. granted, i don't use it to drill down through all program, then find the program I'm looking for, but I do have all my most used apps pinned to the start menu. If theres something i want to run thats not pinned, i just type in the the search bar. Eg just type Word and it launches word. I normally have so many windows open at once that pinning apps to the taskbar is not an option as it takes up way too much space.
Arthur Posted October 7, 2011 Posted October 7, 2011 If there's something I want to run that's not pinned, I just type in the the search bar. e.g. just type Word and it launches Word. You can still do that. I don't like the fact they are removing the Start Menu. Think of the Start screen as a full screen Start Menu with bigger icons.
Gatt Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 I kinds think of the Start Screen as a waste of time when not using a touchscreen device like a tablet or WM7 device... It's whole appearance looks like something from Fisher Price!
RabbieBurns Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 yeh for sure. on a tablet or phone the full screen start screen is fine, but on a desktop you dont want something taking over your whole screen just to run an application
Simcfc73 Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Currently we use XP an the start menu is divided into subjects with their programs listed... how is the fisher price menu going to handle that? I appreciate we have to move with the times but this is supposed to be a business product not a ipad competitor.
Dos_Box Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 AFAIK the Metro interface will be optional. It's just this preview release was intended to get devs working on Metro apps and to give Joe Public a view of what it is like. It isn't even in beta, so please don't panic.....yet.
bondbill2k2 Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 I dont see why its replacing the start menu, IMO this should be an optinal replacement for the desktop not the start menu and have stack style icons for the start menu and the ability to scale how large each icon it, this would still work well on a touch device and better on a desktop then the current previews. I wonder if they will ship win8 with Kinect support?
CyberNerd Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 I wonder if they will ship win8 with Kinect support? It's been in the linux kernel since may
Dos_Box Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Well, it looks like Microsoft are taking the feedback on board: Win 8 haters are just scared of change, say MS bosses ? The Register
Dos_Box Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 And I show a 5.2MB Windows 8 update showing on the Preview Edition now.
Arthur Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 I'm looking forward to this Metro app... http://i.imgur.com/BLFK1.png
Arthur Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 the Metro interface will be optional. Probably not... Microsoft has informed us that the rules laid down at Computex were "guidance" rather than actual system requirements, so the final behavior of the operating system may simply be to use the Start screen for everyone, even low resolution users. The developer preview already acts this way. This makes a Start screen opt-out arguably even less likely. Experienced Windows users may find Windows 8 a bit of a shock. There will certainly have to be some adjustment to the new interface. But once they are over this shock, there should be benefits in the long run. The data and rationale for the Start screen makes a strong case that it really is a faster, more effective way of using the interface. And the underlying change—the greater purity in design, the willingness to not provide every possible option and alternative—should result in a user interface that's more predictable, more consistent, and more efficient. (Source)
gshaw Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) Really not keen, don't like sideways scrolling on a website let alone on my main desktop... really doesn't suit a device without touch screen One of the Windows 7 features I love is the jump lists... how is that going to work with the Metro interface? Will I have to have a tile for every document I want to quickly access or will it now require clicking down through levels of tiles to achieve something I could do with a quick swish of the mouse? So far it seems MS are making change for the sake of it and trying to play catchup with a market that's passed them by... in doing so breaking the one thing they've done well recently (the Win 7 interface) Just stumbled across this trying to figure out how to create a tile, thought it was a later MS preview! Take note Microsoft Edited October 17, 2011 by gshaw
BHMS Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 They have already re-added grouping by folders and reduced the size of the app list tiles since the developer preview so I imagine we will end up with something far more keyboard and mouse friendly by release. Still a loooong time to polish new interfaces. At least thread handling and memory footprint are both improved.
SYNACK Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Just stumbled across this trying to figure out how to create a tile, thought it was a later MS preview! Take note Microsoft Not too much I hope, it was a tad busy and random for my tastes, kind of reminded me of Windows 3.0 with it's layouts at times. There are definitely improvements to be made but the slidy colour blocks from all sides bit can't be the best answer.
gshaw Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 The Metro themed notepad Window did remind me of Windows 1.0, fullscreen with 8-bit primary colours I like the side and bottom slide-in windows but all that work just to re-invent the wheel of the standard Windows desktop experience does feel somewhat pointless
TuffGamer Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Agreed, not a fan of side scrolling either & you will need a touchscreen
Gatt Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 There were a couple of peeps from MS in work today and had a chance to mention Win 8 to them And they both said that there WILL be a GPO to disable MetroUI and it WILL behave like XP did when joined to a domain...
LeMarchand Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Stuck it on an old, somewhat beat up, Samsung Q35 with 1.5GB of RAM and (so far) impressed with how quick it is. Obviously a few niggles, but most of these are to do with the (currently) "forced" Metro UI at log on, which we know won't be the case in the final version. Apart from that, Windows defender doesn't seem to update well. Early days yet, though! Thinking about using it as my main OS on my school laptop as I'm never far from a "proper" machine should needs be. I'd been thinking about a "convertible" laptop, but wasn't impressed by the specs in my price range. Hopefully by the time Windows 8 is out the choice will be much better as I can see it working really well on that type of machine.
Arthur Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 And they both said that there WILL be a GPO to disable MetroUI and it WILL behave like XP did when joined to a domain... What happens when the Metro UI is disabled, but you still want to be able to run Metro apps?
CyberNerd Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Stuck it on an old, somewhat beat up, Samsung Q35 with 1.5GB of RAM and (so far) impressed with how quick it is. I've been reading about improved speed with win8 Windows 8: Early Speed Tests | PCMag.com but every time I mention on edugeek that win7 is bloated and slow compared to linuxes or XP I seem to get shouted down by the win7 fans ?!?! Perhaps there was merit to my argument after all.
Gatt Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 What happens when the Metro UI is disabled, but you still want to be able to run Metro apps? This is a good question as from what i've seen - disabling Metro disables everthign that is linked to it
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