e_g_r Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 OK, radio would be the choice? but what other options are there. Is it possible to fit fibre under a public road? What about some kind of telephone link? Radio the only solution?
webman Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 If the path is clear, you can get a laser link, some running at 100Mbps.
Geoff Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 WiFi bridge is cheap and simple but not 100% reliable. Fibre link requires you go talk to the council and get permission to dig up the road. You also need to notify the police etc. You'll need some workmen to dig the road up and re-lay the road surface correctly aftwards. Basically, it's fiddly, longwinded and expensive. You could also use a site to site VPN connection. You'd need an unfiltered direct connection to the internet in each building and a server running VPN.
bossman Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 Here is a long document on VPNs it's quite complex but in answer to your question of using telephone lines "yes" anyway here is the link:http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2764.html happy reading hehe "something for the weekend sir"
ICTNUT Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 We user laserBit to cover from our main building to our port-a-classes. The distance is 150m and we run 15 pc's over the laser link at a continual 100Mbs without any degradation from weather or low flying birds. The Pinto will gaurantee 100Mb up to 250m but if you require something a little more powerfull you can go up to 1Gb over 1Km (WOW!) The only requirement is you must have clear line of site at both ends and it must be mounted where people can not look directly into the path of the laser. Info can be found here --> http://www.cablemanstore.co.uk/#home They currently have an offer on which can be found on the front home page.
bossman Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 ICTNUT We had a link like this and the local yobs took a shine to it and decided to use it as target practise for their powerful air rifles and hey presto we found out to our expense what good shots they were. at upwards of £3000 a shot hehe forgive the pun that is rather expensive. got fibre link instead cost slightly more but is now in place and working a treat. ICTNUT it's still a very good solution though so sorry not dissing it OK
john Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 Councils can be quite accomodating, we have ours under public highways and TBH they ain't always that fussey, but depends if your wanting to put yours under the M60 or the C5333, ours were quite rural local roads not main trunk roads or anything like that so maybe thats why we were so lucky and found it fairly easy going.
Joedetic Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 Heh...if you get a laser make sure it's mounted high enough so that it's not cut each time a bus or a HGV goes past
srochford Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 We have some laser links - they're coming to end of life now but they were pretty good. Manufacturer is Pavdata (http://www.pavdata.com/) Across a road you shouldn't have any problems but over a longer distance (longest for us is about 2.5km) fog can be a serious issue and snow has caused a problem. How high are your buildings? If they're way above traffic height then a steel catenary with fibre tied to it would be cheap and easy and give you immense bandwidth.
FN-GM Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 you can ask BT if they will run a Fiber or Ethernet cable from the telephone poll for you. They did it for a friends of mine in the Isle Of Wight
pete Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 ^ We run fibre via a steel cable from our building, across the road to a telephone pole and then to the other building. BT were fine with this. Admittedly, our site is pretty rural and the only requirement was to ensure high-sided lorries could safely get through.
plexer Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 If you want to go under the road you may not have to dig it up as companies offer directional drilling/tunneling. Ben
ctbjs Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I would go for a wireless bridge. We had a fibre link between our upper and lower school and it was cut by some contractors that were doing the road and although there were other building work being done they would not admit liability for it. Of course if the cable is broken you have no connectivity and you have to locate the cut and this can be both expensive and lengthy. To have the whole thing replaced would cost a fortune. We had a wireless bridge installed for around £2000 in April this year and it is excellent. Providing you have line of sight to the other part of the school you will have no problems. As for reliablity I would say it is 100%. We have had no issues to date. If you want to know who did this for us then pm me and you can contact them direct.
BKGarry Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I think consulting BT would be an option especially if you would like fibre as they a wicked portable-ish machine that can join fibre. Or maybe even Virgin Media if it is a cable enable area as they might have a solution aswell. Gaz
philjones2000 Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 We had 2 sites a few years ago and were lucky in that there was a bridge across for the kids and we ran a fibre line across it. Then we had "Enviroment Day" which involved getting the kids to dig a trench across the playing field and laid the fibre in that. None of them semed to quesition why they had to do it either... It was just like a chain gang
sidewinder Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Then we had "Enviroment Day" which involved getting the kids to dig a trench across the playing field and laid the fibre in that. None of them semed to quesition why they had to do it either... It was just like a chain gang That is brilliant
psydii Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 So it's 2023, anyone done this recently? Because it is 2023, 90% of activities would be just fine with no layer 2 or 3 connectivity to the main building, however we need certain elements to be fully integrated with our existing infrastructure, including some legacy tech that expects to be on the same layer 2 network. We also have some potential workflows that would benefit from 10G back to the servers. Anyone got any advice? Who did you go to to solve it? How much did it cost? How was the funding secured?
ColonelPanic Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 Our ISP offered a WAN connection between 2 sites across town (~3 miles). AFAIK the cost wasn't substantial. Was secured as DfE funding when the new site was built. Internet speeds to site 2 are 1Gb, between site WAN traffic (backups) speeds are ~10Gb. 1
TronXP Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 We use a BT SHDS 10GB link between our 2 schools (around 2 miles apart).
DalekSec Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 If you have a LoS use a PTP link, unifi do a BTB link kit : https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/collections/unifi-wifi-building-bridge-gigabit/products/ubb They do do a 10G link now
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