Windows 11

[ITGURU]

When is release date for Volume Licensing?

[Primus]

There's no release date officially announced. A leaked date supposedly said October 20th but who knows when it'll hit VLSC at this point.

[tg12]

I have to say, I've installed the Insider Preview on a laptop the other day and have been playing about with it, the UI changes have grown on me and it has so far been pretty stable. Ok, I haven't done much on it as yet but still, so far so good!

[mdrabble]

Where are people finding the ISO on the insider preview site? All I am seeing is Windows 10.

 

Cheers

[Norphy]

I don't think there is one yet. I did an installation of 21H1 on a VM, joined it the insider program and did an in-place upgrade.

[tg12]

Yeah, in-place upgrade is the only way at the moment. Laptop had a base install of 20H2 on it and jumped to 11 without issue

[Norphy]

I don't know if this has been posted here or not, but what the hey:

 

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/windows-lifecycle-and-servicing-update/ba-p/2493043

 

Windows 11 is going to have an annual feature update cadence instead of semi-annual. Enterprise and Education builds will be supported for three years from release, the others for two years. There's going to be a Windows 10 21H2 but who knows if there's going to be anything after that? Although given that they're committed to supporting Windows 10 SAC until 2025, it makes a certain amount of sense for a 22H1 and 22H2 release to be developed, as the end of support for a hypothetical 22H2 would fit in with that timeframe.

[mavhc]

Explains where all the features from the last 3 Win10 updates have gone to, holding them back for Win 10.1

[jthompson]

Explains where all the features from the last 3 Win10 updates have gone to, holding them back for Win 10.1

 

I was rather hoping that it was a sign that Win10 had settled into maturity.

[aicrd]

I don't think there is one yet. I did an installation of 21H1 on a VM, joined it the insider program and did an in-place upgrade.

 

You can get an ISO unofficially via windows update.

 

https://www.xda-developers.com/download-windows-11/

[Sheridan]

I thought I'd have a look at 11 but it pretty much went the way I would have expected. Test (physical) PC meets the minimum spec and I tried to install Dev insider but it fails every time time with error 0xc1900101. Glad to see some things haven't changed with the updates in W10!

[supportman]

I thought I'd have a look at 11 but it pretty much went the way I would have expected. Test (physical) PC meets the minimum spec and I tried to install Dev insider but it fails every time time with error 0xc1900101. Glad to see some things haven't changed with the updates in W10!

 

Driver or anti virus issue usually.

 

How to Fix 0xc1900101 0x20004 Windows 10 "The installation failed" (howto-connect.com)

Edited July 9, 2021 by supportman

[Sheridan]

Driver or anti virus issue usually.

 

How to Fix 0xc1900101 0x20004 Windows 10 "The installation failed" (howto-connect.com)

 

My test rig has updated drivers and no AV (just defender) - it goes all the way through the process and reboots, gets to 68% and thats it - it reboots back to 10 with the error. Its a year old PC as well so I would have thought an ideal test candidate!

 

Updates were a botch in 10 - so I was half expecting this!

[Gongalong]

Not sure if I've missed this in the earlier pages, but what are people's thoughts about the CPU and TPM requirement versus the age of hardware that a lot of state schools have?

 

We're running several hundred vintage desktops (5-10 years old), and although we would have to look at replacing them soon anyway, I expect this means we need to replace them all before the Oct 2025 Win 10 end of support date. That's going to be a huge cost to the school. Ditto for a few dozen laptops, although they're inevitably more likely to be replaced within that timeframe anyway.

 

Could it be that MS will push the Win 10 end of support date back, or extend it for enterprise/education?

[thimon]

We’re in the same boat. We have a lot of 9 - 10 year old laptops that don’t have TPM 2.0. They obviously need replacing at some point anywho, however limited budget.

[DrCheese]

expect this means we need to replace them all before the Oct 2025 Win 10 end of support date.

 

If we have any devices without TPMs left at that stage (Hopefully not but likely in some areas) then my plan will be to throw the last Windows 10 LTSC on them (There's one due this year) which gives 10 years of support, so in theory giving a few more years of life (Until 2031) - Of course, they'll have to be stuck on old versions of office as well but it'll be better than the alternative.

[ITGURU]

Just enabled insider on my surface pro 7 and its gone onto windows 11..yay!

We've just replaced out 12 year old quad core PCs with new refurb i5 base units with ssd at less than £190 each! we used to buy new, but these with brand new SSD and RAM 3 year warranty its been a cost effective upgrade for us when funds have been short

[aicrd]

If we have any devices without TPMs left at that stage (Hopefully not but likely in some areas) then my plan will be to throw the last Windows 10 LTSC on them (There's one due this year) which gives 10 years of support, so in theory giving a few more years of life (Until 2031) - Of course, they'll have to be stuck on old versions of office as well but it'll be better than the alternative.

 

Sadly not. LTSC is now only 5 years, not 10. In fact, LTSC 2019 is in support for longer than the new LTSC 2022! So if you want long term, go 2019 as thats the last LTSC version that will be supported (2029)

[DrCheese]

ah I hadn't realised that - I did wonder if Microsoft would close this loophole..

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/the-next-windows-10-long-term-servicing-channel-ltsc-release/ba-p/2147232

[FN-GM]

We’re in the same boat. We have a lot of 9 - 10 year old laptops that don’t have TPM 2.0. They obviously need replacing at some point anywho, however limited budget.

 

They will be around 14 years old by the time Windows 10 is out of support. Wouldn't they be gone by then?

[thimon]

They will be around 14 years old by the time Windows 10 is out of support. Wouldn't they be gone by then?

 

You’d hope so… [emoji1]

[Gongalong]

Just enabled insider on my surface pro 7 and its gone onto windows 11..yay!

We've just replaced out 12 year old quad core PCs with new refurb i5 base units with ssd at less than £190 each! we used to buy new, but these with brand new SSD and RAM 3 year warranty its been a cost effective upgrade for us when funds have been short

What make/model did you buy, and do they fit the Win 11 spec? I try to avoid refurbs because it's replacing very old with somewhat old, but conversely we've got 10 years out of our current desktops so depends on the age of the refurb.

[Norphy]

You’d hope so… [emoji1]

 

You'd hope so. However, given how some schools prioritize spending...

[Protec]

It's almost like Windows 10 but with a skin...

 

I'm sure MS said they were going to just keep updating Windows 10 and not going to release a new OS? Oh well.

 

As for Windows 11, I won't be changing to it anytime soon. I wonder when schools, etc will start implementing Windows 11 if ever. It might be like Windows 8 / 8.1 where most places just missed that out entirely!

[aicrd]

It's almost like Windows 10 but with a skin...

 

I'm sure MS said they were going to just keep updating Windows 10 and not going to release a new OS? Oh well.

 

As for Windows 11, I won't be changing to it anytime soon. I wonder when schools, etc will start implementing Windows 11 if ever. It might be like Windows 8 / 8.1 where most places just missed that out entirely!

 

I have a feeling the sole reason for the name change is the increased security / TPM requirements. It's too drastic of a change to include in a CU for Windows 10 really. Microsoft are wanting to rival Google and Apple when it comes to physical security.