LukeAdl Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 Hello All, Ive been trying to figure out what the best way to do wide scale clean up for the computers on our network. Around 3 months ago we reinstalled all computers to have Windows 10 however they have become really slow . We aren't using very bad computers either, we are using HP Pro one 400 G3. Is there any way to make it faster eg deleting temp files. We are also using NetSupport DNA so we can push out scripts, .exe and .msi Any help is much appreciated. Thanks Guys!!
PotNoodleTech Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 Do they have SSD drives? if not that would be my first upgrade, it's like having a new PC!!
ICTDirect_Dave Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 I would have thought that Gen 7 intel machines with DDR4 would come with SSDs as standard. On closer inspection however, it seems not. So yes, I'd look at that first.
bobsmith Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 Something that trumps SSDs, are your GPO's making login times 10+ minutes? - cos a fast hard drive isn't really gonna fix that.
hardtailstar Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 SSDs, RAM and cleaning out fans and redoing thermal paste.
dcwhitworth Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 An important question to ask is in what way are they slow ? Long login times ? Freezing / delays while in use ? Generally slow ? Also you say they have become slow, do you mean since Windows 10 was installed or have they gradually become slower ? I get the feelingthat something is going on here that an SSD won't help much with.
3s-gtech Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 I SSD'd all the things, and my life became 200% better. Possibly because I had time to do other things beyond waiting for Windows to load and replacing failed HDDs. 1
LukeAdl Posted April 30, 2019 Author Posted April 30, 2019 Hello All thanks for the replies at the moment getting ssd's for all computers is kind of out of the question until budget rolls back around in September... Login in times are ok within a minute or two however its just everyday browsing trying to open up the windows menu or opening up differentiations files takes very long.
Omega_NL Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 Perhaps I'm stating the obvious, but one thing of note is when ordering new PCs or SSDs they should be at least 120GB in size as Win 10 ver 1903 supposedly reserves 7GB of storage for updates. We predict having issues with our older machines with 64GB SSDs come summer when we re-image them.
LukeAdl Posted April 30, 2019 Author Posted April 30, 2019 Yeah we want to get new computers but we just don't have the budget this year I'm looking for quick solutions as getting emails from staff saying computer is slow is frustrating
synaesthesia Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 SHouldn't be much else you can do to those machines really for performance; that level of slow browsing would typically be RAM based (should be 4GB I assume, or more on those machines?) but to parrot everyone else, an SSD when they're coming in at around £12 for 120GB units is a win-win upgrade. 1
LukeAdl Posted April 30, 2019 Author Posted April 30, 2019 Not that I am aware of.. Only programs usually ran are sims powerpoint and chrome
timbo343 Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 Is it worth having a look at remote process monitors or even to see if the disk activity is near to 100%? You'd be surprised to see what SSDs actually do. You can throw as much RAM or CPU at machines these days but without an SSD you're going struggle. Is there not even some spare money to say a hard drive as failed therefore we need to buy a replacement and then say "oh look, an ssd for x price. Lets try that". Then you can see if the SSD actually makes a difference. If it does you have a good case on your hands. If not, you may need to look to see what is causing the slowness but at least you've tried the SSD route.
timbo343 Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 Not that I am aware of.. Only programs usually ran are sims powerpoint and chromeYou'd be surprised how intensive chrome is these days!! 1
strawberry Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 Are you the tech in the school?. What have you done to diagnose the slowness?. Where does the slowness exist? 1
crc-ict Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Are these classroom PCs that are being used to drive an IWB and a monitor via the on-board video in duplicate mode? If so, we have the same problem from time to time - system slows to a crawl and becomes almost unresponsive. Have it on both Win10 LTSB 2016 (1607) and Win10 LTSC 2019 (1809). Can't find the cause, although I've seen reference to it online. Can be 'fixed by doing a quick Windows+P, select PC screen only (everything will unfreeze), then back to Duplicate again and all will be well for a while. May not be the issue, but sounds kind of similar.
Techykev Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Yeah we want to get new computers but we just don't have the budget this year I'm looking for quick solutions as getting emails from staff saying computer is slow is frustrating Just forward the emails to SLT explaining that the lack of budget is impacting on teaching and learning and that £XX amount for upgrade to RAM/SSD would be extremely beneficial. As others have said, without spending some money there is very little else can be done to improve overall performance. 1
dcwhitworth Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Just forward the emails to SLT explaining that the lack of budget is impacting on teaching and learning and that £XX amount for upgrade to RAM/SSD would be extremely beneficial. As others have said, without spending some money there is very little else can be done to improve overall performance. Or get the money for just one upgrade for a vocal teacher and use that to prove the value of spending for all the others. 1
atcoates Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 Or get the money for just one upgrade for a vocal teacher and use that to prove the value of spending for all the others. That would be my approach as well. If you have a spare SSD you can do some side by side comparison to build a case for the larger upgrade project. 1
sted Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 is it worth running delprof on 1 and see if that helps it maybe the main users complaining of issues have a massive and or iffy profile on the pcs? also worth checking if its a roaming profile (though you say logon times arnt too bad so probably not) might also be worth running defrag on them (cant harm)
mikeprice Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 I would suggest (as said above) that you fix one PC manually - delete temp file, run delprof etc etc to see what makes a difference. This will give you a clue as to what is causing the problem. then move on from there
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