sparkeh Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Of course Theresa May can't actually 100% say it will be Law, but the I can't see any Tories voting against it to be honest. Internal debates on Europe though will be a different matter I suspect.
sonofsanta Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Theresa May has already confirmed the Data snooping act the Lib Dems blocked will become law. Source? Very depressing, though I expect it's an act that will be whipped through with the refrain "Won't Someone Think of the Children!" echoing round the halls of Westminster.
Andrew_C Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 All that talk of "zero hour contracts" and "bedroom taxes" earlier in this thread seems a long way away. Only if you've got your own home, and a safe job.
Gatt Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Its a shallow victory. You have won nothing but the right to gloat. Milk it while you can and wave goodbye to the NHS and all the other stuff that was not in the manefesto that they will spring upon the UK. I can hear the sounds of tectonic plates giving way up north. Im going to vote we leave the EU just out of spite. Clearly the polls do not agree, otherwise the Conservatives would not have got back into power. Labour and Lib Dems have been decimated by the SNP What does that tell you about what Labour were proposing? Seems to say a lot to me...
tmcd35 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 What does that tell you about what Labour were proposing? People were too caught up in the rhetoric that the last Labour government caused the world wide financial melt down and didn't listen to anything else. 2
localzuk Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 People were too caught up in the rhetoric that the last Labour government caused the world wide financial melt down and didn't listen to anything else. The Murdoch/Right-wing press has been very successful on this point! 2
Theblacksheep Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 5 years of beating the poor, less money in schools, outsourcing, data snooping, rising house prices and smug looking turkeys having voted for Christmas. 1
Gatt Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 People were too caught up in the rhetoric that the last Labour government caused the world wide financial melt down and didn't listen to anything else. So basically "It wasn't us Guv!" ? That hasn't really worked though has it - No leader, no shadow leader, wiped out by nationalists, far fewer seats than you had before. Maybe people started to realise that things aren't as bad as they were led to believe?
Zoom7000 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 In other news, David Miliband has been trending on Twitter all morning.
LeMarchand Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Theresa May has already confirmed the Data snooping act the Lib Dems blocked will become law. That didn't take long! One point that hasn't much been talked about: we're all fracked now. (Unless you happen to live very close to someone rich and powerful, in which case no fracking for you).
elsiegee40 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) People were too caught up in the rhetoric that the last Labour government caused the world wide financial melt down and didn't listen to anything else. I disagree. I think they didn't see Ed as a credible leader and they liked the UKIP anti immigration rhetoric. Voting UKIP hit the labour vote worse than the conservative one. Edited May 8, 2015 by elsiegee40 1
tmcd35 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Maybe people started to realise that things aren't as bad as they were led to believe? Well, if house prices start to full. If rents suddenly become affordable. If property suddenly becomes available for people who need to downsize (to avoid certain expenses). Then I'll agree. Personally, I should do great under a Tory government - so long as we avoid being swallowed by a MAT and I become redundant. Tax will go down, house prices will go up, I'm rich Which is a good thing since I'll need the extra income now if I'm ever going to be able to retire. Yep, it's not as bad as I think...
sonofsanta Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I disagree. I think they didn't see Ed as a credible leader. I think this is what it comes down to -- I challenge anyone amongst us, even those of us curling up with disappointment this morning, to call Ed Milliband "inspiring" and maintain a straight face. It's never felt like Labour really sat down and looked at themselves after last time, never did the hard work they needed to do to rebuild properly. Hopefully they do so this time, but I don't know who they can pick to do that job. All of the names being mentioned (apart from Yvette Cooper) are almost anonymous to me, which isn't a good sign.
tmcd35 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I disagree. I think they didn't see Ed as a credible leader and they liked the UKIP anti immigration rhetoric. Voting UKIP meant hit the labour vote worse than the conservative one. That doesn't explain the Lib Dem swing to Tory.
elsiegee40 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) That doesn't explain the Lib Dem swing to Tory. Most of the results I have looked at have shown the lib dems as the big losers and UKIP gaining most of them. The conservatives got relatively few of the lib dem votes. I am working on the theory that majority who fell for "I agree with Nick" and switched from Labour to Lib Dem in 2010 have switched to UKIP this time and still not voted Labour Edited May 8, 2015 by elsiegee40
sonofsanta Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 That doesn't explain the Lib Dem swing to Tory. 'Cos if you're not picking Clegg, and you don't like Milliband, there's only Cameron left?
Disease Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 **sigh** Another 5 years of moaning and over exaggeration.. Exactly, people need to accept the fact that the majority of people have spoken and also the good that the government managed in the last parliament and stop spouting exaggerated rubbish.
SovietRussia Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 5 years of beating the poor, less money in schools, outsourcing, data snooping, rising house prices and smug looking turkeys having voted for Christmas. If that is what the* UK voted for - then so be it! I am sure it won't be repeated in 2020. *majority
LeMarchand Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 That doesn't explain the Lib Dem swing to Tory. Maybe the LibDem voters are less Socialist than we think and figured that if they voted LibDem they'd get Tory anyway?
localzuk Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 That doesn't explain the Lib Dem swing to Tory. Tory only gained an extra 0.8% of votes. What happened is people who voted Lib Dem before voted for anyone but Tory - so the Tories (who were nearly universally in second place in Lib Dem seats), end up with the most votes due to it. Looking at my constituency, Lib Dem votes disappeared almost entirely and UKIP votes are now number 2! 2
LeMarchand Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) If that is what the* UK voted for - then so be it! I am sure it won't be repeated in 2020. *majority Surely not even the Tories would dare to revoke the right to vote? Edited May 8, 2015 by LeMarchand Poor grammar. Tut!
tmcd35 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 What happened is people who voted Lib Dem before voted for anyone but Tory - so the Tories (who were nearly universally in second place in Lib Dem seats), end up with the most votes due to it. That explains it, didn't pick up on that.
localzuk Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Funny that when I mentioned it you appeared to just repeat it verbatim. Example? I don't read any of the right wing press, so not sure how I could repeat it...
elsiegee40 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 UK map post-election compared to Maggie Simpson: http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE1LzA1LzA4L2VhL21hZ2dpZXNpbXBzLjRjZDMzLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTU3NXgzMjMjCmUJanBn/5f72bc07/0fd/maggie-simpson-uk-map.jpg Link: https://twitter.com/alexmclaughlan/status/596275265845764096/photo/1 I posted this a couple of pages back
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