55 in a 30 limit!

[SimpleSi]

Daughter's got caught speeding 55 in a 30 (heading out of the village 100yds from the Nat Speed Limit sign - so not a complete looney!)

 

What sort of damage we looking at (As I'm presuming some of you youngsters might have been caught in similar cirumstances )

 

Big fine?

How many points?

Banned from driving as only passed here test 18 months ago?

 

 

Si

[SW-ICT]

she will go on the drivers aweness course!!

 

Hope this helps!

[FN-GM]

I think that speed she will be going to court. Im 90% sure of it, its nearly double the limit.

 

How long has she been driving? If its under 2 years and they give her 6 points she will need to retake her test.

 

How do you know she has been caught?

 

EDIT: Just found this http://www.drivingban.co.uk/drivingban/speedingoffences/drivingbanspeedingoffences.htm#I_have_been_caught_speeding._Is_an_instant_driving_ban_likely

Edited September 7, 2011 by FN-GM

[EduTech]

Yup, She will be asked if she would like to attend a drivers awareness course... she can accept and complete the course and then that is it (cost £80.00) or/ she can decline and get a fine and 3 points.

 

Course lasts a total of 4 hours

 

If you get caught again (in 2-3 years i believe) then you get the 3 points with no option to do a course.

 

Hope that helps,

 

I do agree with FN though, that speed might have tipped it over the edge to go to court initially.. and then they decide.

 

James.

[jamesreedersmith]

Sounds like a court - if shes knows she been done she should know - if it was an on the spot fine then she will have been given the notice, if the officer is reporting her for the offence... then its court im afraid!

[K.C.Leblanc]

Might be worth a look here;

 

PePiPoo: Helping the motorist to get justice

 

But really you have to wait and see. How does she know she's been caught, have she received a NIP or was she pulled over.

[DT2]

Normally she'd be offered the option of points on her license or an awareness course, but due to the fact she was almost twice the limit, I'd expect a summons.

Was she stopped by a copper or caught on camera?

 

DT

[elsiegee40]

Her insurance costs will go through the roof now.

 

How old is daughter?

 

Our car insurance is with the Co-Op and the car has a smart box fitted that records it's every move... The policy is aimed at 17-24 year olds. It reduced the insurance costs by 50% and because it's checking up on her, her driving is exemplary. You can see how you're doing by checking an online dashboard. The only downside is that the car is ine and it checks up on me too... so I have to behave as well!

[plexer]

Our car insurance is with the Co-Op and the car has a smart box fitted that records it's every move... The policy is aimed at 17-24 year olds. It reduced the insurance costs by 50% and because it's checking up on her, her driving is exemplary. You can see how you're doing by checking an online dashboard. The only downside is that the car is ine and it checks up on me too... so I have to behave as well!

 

Thats why I quite like the idea of the Ford mykey or whatever it is as the settings are per key i.e you can program the son/daus key to behave differently to yours however it's available on new fiestas from next year not the sort of car you'd be buying a learner I guess but as a shared car it's a possibility.

 

Ben

[SimpleSi]

She's 19, was done by mobile van, I received the NTP today as the car owner - almost certain to be summoned.

 

I believe she will be lucky to get a fine of < £150 and 6 points (Which would make her have to take her test again) or an actual short ban.

 

I was just wondering if someone had actually been done for this sort of speed limit excess

 

Si

[laserblazer]

I got done the very first time I took my car out. I was a learner with a mate as the qualified driver. 45 in a 30 limit and a £5 fine and endorsement. I was in an A35 and I tried to argue that it wouldn't go that fast. MInd you, £5 was nearly a weeks wages then.

 

Tough on her (you) but I think it will be costly. As elsiegee said, it's the knock on effect as well.

Edited September 7, 2011 by laserblazer

[Wils86]

My missus got caught a few months back. The way she was told was 50% or less above the speed limit and its 3 points and an £80 fine, 51% or over and its 6 points. Double the limit and its an instant ban.

 

Sucks to be caught hopefully it doesn't knock your daughters confidence as the missus was shaken up after a cop stopped her.

[Trapper]

My sister in law now has six points, after passing four months ago.

 

For the first it was doing 36 in a 30. Why? Her Dad (ex-science teacher - get the bashing in!) told her the sat nav speedo is more accurate than the ONE PLUGGED INTO THE BLOODY WHEELS! So she got done for that.

 

Last week she jumped a light a second too late in the "Well it's amber so I'll keep going" and it was one of those that takes a nice photo.

 

I assume she's looking at loosing her nice new license? Worst thing being she's just started her NQT year, at a school 30 miles away!

[SimpleSi]

She's a student in 2nd year at uni so its not the end of the world for her - just means won't be able to borrow the car when she comes home

 

Si

[FN-GM]

If she does go to court she might be lucky. A friend of mien got caught doing 110 on the motorway. He had his lenience for 18 months. He went to court and basically begged. They gave him a fine and 5 points and he didnt need to retake his test. It might be worth the day in court....

[SimpleSi]

He went to court and basically begged.

I'm thinking that might the best idea - plead previous good behaviour - point out she was going down a steep hill within sight of the Nat Speed Limit sign and that she needs a licence for her job to help pay her way through university.

 

Si

[FN-GM]

I'm thinking that might the best idea - plead previous good behaviour - point out she was going down a steep hill within sight of the Nat Speed Limit sign and that she needs a licence for her job to help pay her way through university.

 

Si

 

I think its worth a try.

[FragglePete]

Have to confess to an incident back in 2003; got caught doing 56mph in a 30 limit. Complete moment of stupidity while on my motorbike to get in front of a car that tried racing me (yes, I know, shouldn't have raised to the bait). Got snapped by a Gatso and summons in the post within 4 days. It was made clear that due to the excess nature of the speed (more than 20mph above the limit) it was to be dealt with by the courts. I pleaded guilty by post. The fine is means tested, and just before the court date I got made redundant so my income was 0, and my outgoings were a heck of a lot (mortgage, bills, kids, etc); as a result I got a £70 fine (with £20 costs) but got loaded with the maximum 6 points.

 

Didn't really affect my insurance though, it was still classed as a SP30 which most insurance companies allow these without affecting the premium too much. Just behaved myself from then on.

 

Pete

[kernewek-sam]

I'm thinking that might the best idea - plead previous good behaviour - point out she was going down a steep hill within sight of the Nat Speed Limit sign and that she needs a licence for her job to help pay her way through university.

 

Si

 

Definitely worth a try, especially the paying for uni, with the fee rises hopefully they'll be sympathetic and see sense that it sounds like an innocent mistake.

[CyberNerd]

when I was 19 I got 6 points for 60 in a 30

[penfold_99]

I believe there is previous president in place over how near the police/camera can be to a change in speed limit. If they are too close then it can be thrown out. AFAIK there was a case where a driver argued that they were accelerating towards the speed limit so that they were not causing an obstruction on the road. You can equally get a fine for driving to slowly on the roads.

 

Might be worth speaking to a lawyer on a 30 min free session if they do get a summons.

[jamesreedersmith]

Will people please stop suggesting ways to try and get out of it! If you break the law then you should expect to "pay the price" for your actions. Speeding is Speeding and the only way around this is to not speed. People seem to see this as a non crime (like littering, being on the phone while driving etc etc.) They are all crimes and if you are caught then you should accept the punishment. In a school if a child is caughting misbehaving they are punished, if an adult is caught we try to get out of it on a technicality (which is wrong).

 

You break the law and are caught - you should accept the punishment issued!

[elsiegee40]

It's painful, but she broke the law. Finding out what the damage may be is one thing; avoiding conviction on technicalities is another...

 

Yes, I would make my daughter live with the consequences.

[laserblazer]

Yes, I would make my daughter live with the consequences.

 

I don't think the OP disagrees with that. The main issue is getting fair treatment. We get two freebie papers that show the court cases for that town. In one, the punishment for similar offences is consistently far greater than the other. It's not a fair system where the punishment can depend on the mood of the "Beak". So I don't see a problem with using a lawyer to help. And if a policeman sets up his stall too close to the sign because he knows he'll get a better catch and that is contrary to regulations or guidelines, then it should be addressed.

[elsiegee40]

I don't think OP does either, but I am getting concerned by the tone of some of the other posts in this thread