Jumper Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) Hi Guys,, I was wondering what solutions any of you guys are using to backup VMware server. We currently use backup exec and backup in the region of 2Tb, So what i am really asking is do you know of any better solutions ? Cheers Edited November 11, 2010 by Jumper
Jumper Posted November 11, 2010 Author Posted November 11, 2010 Only 2gb do you mean 2tb? Well spotted that man and original post edited.
Norphy Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Are you installing the BackupExec clients on the virtual machines or are you backing up the hosts directly?
Jumper Posted November 11, 2010 Author Posted November 11, 2010 Are you installing the BackupExec clients on the virtual machines or are you backing up the hosts directly? The backup exec clients are installed on the virtual machines presently. We are looking at Veeam as one possible solution.
Norphy Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Can you clarify which VMware you're using? Is it the free VMware server or is it ESX/vSphere?
Jumper Posted November 11, 2010 Author Posted November 11, 2010 Can you clarify which VMware you're using? Is it the free VMware server or is it ESX/vSphere? My bad should of given more info in the OP, we are using VSphere and ESXi currently
Norphy Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 In that case, you could use the built-in consolidated backup routines that comes with vSphere and/or use a backup application which can take advantage of it. We use Commvault Simpana here and I'm in the process of using it and Consolidated Backup to back things up here at the moment. Commvault is an extremely good backup package in itself, it knocks spots off Backup Exec 1
Avalon Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 we were in a similar boat. we had BackupExec installed on every physical server before virtualizing. We are now running vSphere 4 with three ESXi hosts. We went for vRanger Pro which works really well. Connects into vCenter (if you are running that) or individual esx hosts and allows you to either backup your entire infrastructure or specific VM's within it
ChrisH Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 I am Using MS DPM and installing the client on VMs. It's not the best solution for VMs like Veeam but it does allow a lot of scope for synchronisation and recovery points as well as easy bare metal recovery. Plus it costs something like £10 per server on a schools agreement so it's a winner on price.
Theblacksheep Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 The commercial VM backup software is very, very overpriced. We use VMwareVDR1.2 and DPM2010.
Jumper Posted November 11, 2010 Author Posted November 11, 2010 Thanks for the replies, gives me a few other options to look at.
Sylv3r Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 We will probably go down the Veeam route when we virtualise next year.
Jumper Posted November 12, 2010 Author Posted November 12, 2010 We will probably go down the Veeam route when we virtualise next year. We have just been doing some testing with Veeam and it is looking very good. It will do 90% of what we need.
Guest salan Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Well we had a DR situation last week (shock wave from a gas explosion next door trashed the disks). what we have found is that a lot of these solutions that 'say' they provide DR. Do not. So how many of you have ACTUALLY tested with a full DR senario your backup solutions? We have used Backup exec and VMDR. Both failed and needed systems to be rebuilt. Meaning we were down for days not hours as had been thought. We are now re evaluting our backup solutions. Alan
Jumper Posted November 12, 2010 Author Posted November 12, 2010 Well we had a DR situation last week (shock wave from a gas explosion next door trashed the disks). what we have found is that a lot of these solutions that 'say' they provide DR. Do not. So how many of you have ACTUALLY tested with a full DR senario your backup solutions? We have used Backup exec and VMDR. Both failed and needed systems to be rebuilt. Meaning we were down for days not hours as had been thought. We are now re evaluting our backup solutions. Alan We simulated a disaster recovery using backup exec and it was shockingly bad. This is one of the reasons we are looking at other packages.
oxide54 Posted November 13, 2010 Posted November 13, 2010 probably the main reason I'm upgrading to 2008 R2. we're using DPM and getting a server back up is easier with "bare metal" restore. still not a one step process though. and gonna take a long time for 40+ vm's
Ashm Posted November 14, 2010 Posted November 14, 2010 Veeam gets my vote, and the education pricing isn't half bad.
squeeky Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 I just have a script that pauses my VM and backs everything up then starts them again. Its a bodge job but it works perfectly every night
ssiruuk2 Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 If your using ESX/i then another recommendation for Veeam.
sister_annex Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 +1 for Veeam - saved my bacon more than once
Pon Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Hi, my company also planning to buy ESXi server and will use install VM, i am planning that use which backup software for backup vmdk files then use backup exec to backup tape. i dont want to use Symantec agent, can you give me good advice for use which freeware to backup vmdk files? Thanks,
squeeky Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 @ Pon you cant easily backup the vmdk whilst the VM is live unless you use a proper vmware backup solution. However you can pause the vm via script and then backup the files eg at night
Pon Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 at first, thanks Squeeky, i know that i need to do backup at night, and i saw some posts who uses esXpress that can backup vmdk files.
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