danielstucke Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Could anyone give me a rough idea of what is an average IT budget for a Secondary School? I'm starting a job as eLearning Director in Sept and looks like I'll be managing the technicians and general IT strategy and budget. The school has approx 750 pupils and I have been quoted a figure of £25k a year for general IT spend. I'm not sure what is and isn't included in that, but it seems low to me. A ball park figure per pupil would be really helpful for future negotations! Thanks in advance
steveg Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 That does seem very low, but it depends on what is included elsewhere, its possible for example that consumables has a a seperate budget, and all computer hardware is leased, and lease costs come from another budget, in which case this money could just be for development. I'm entirely Primary school based, but our budgets vary from £16k for a 180 pupil Infant school, £11k for a 450 Pupil primary, through to go to the head and beg if you want anything new for another school! Steve 1
button_ripple Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 500 pupils ~150 staff in our primary school and we got £30k this year (mine you previously we only get £21k) I would say that your budget is low! 1
f21970 Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Approx 1250 students - total budget this year including project budgets is £120k (what I mean is that this figure is not just for maintenance/sustainability. If you want a rough budgetary maintenance figure, take how many PC's you have and divide by 3. Multiply that by the cost of a PC. (that takes care of sustainability of ICT) Add to that the cost of replacing 10% of your projectors, and 50% of your projector bulbs. Add approximately 30% of the figures above added together for break/fix maintenance. The figures I am quoting do not include such things as printer consumables, which in our school are paid for by individual departments. I only pay for toner for the printer in my office. 1
danielstucke Posted July 9, 2009 Author Posted July 9, 2009 Thanks folks. Until I find out exactly what goes out of what pot I suppose it's hard to gauge. I'll just have to bid for more if its needed.
jsnetman Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Becta have an investment planner spreadsheet that can give you a fairly accurate overall view of how much is being spent. We have been asked to use it as a pre BSF exercise. Ours came out at £207 per pupil. Quite low I think compared to other schools but we have a policy of reneweing desktops every 6 years which keeps the spend down. 1
f21970 Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Wow - every 6 years!!! Bet you spend more in man-hours keeping them going in the last 2 years than it would cost to replace them!!!!
jsnetman Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Not really, the odd motherboard or hard disk. But nothing major, we don't have like 100's going down all at once. I would say 1 every 2 months which is no big deal.
Geoff Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Also remember not all schools are in equal financial positions. There might be some issue at your school causing the purse strings to be pulled tight.
localzuk Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 620 kids, about 275 computers, and we've spent about £1.25mill in the last 4 years. Including refurbishing the rooms for it, so probably about £700k of actual IT spend. Can't really look at it on a yearly basis, as this year I have very little - probably about £40k altogether, but 2 years ago I spent a huge amount.
jsnetman Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 There might be some issue at your school causing the purse strings to be pulled tight No issues at all. My personal belief is that if you buy a higher spec computer you can just about get 6 years from them before new apps will struggle on them.
sippo Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 We have approx 1000 students, was given a budget of less than 10k. 1
tmcd35 Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Rough figures 860 pupils Harnessing Technology Fund 09/10 - £13.5k (£16.40 per student) 20% Devolved Capital - £18.5k Department Budget - £15.5k Total - £47.5k + £23k for broadband + £12k left over from last year Harnessing Tech Fund. Hope that helps. 1
wesleyw Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Our spend is less than that as well £207 per pupils would come in very handy! Depends on number of pupils I suppose. Wes
jsnetman Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Our spend is less than that as well £207 per pupils would come in very handy! Depends on number of pupils I suppose. Wes We have 850 pupils. 1
Butuz Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 We have 850 pupils. So thats £175k per year?? As an aside - are people including in their figures things such as leasing, warranties and support contracts? Or is this thread purely about the amount you get per year to purchase new equipment? Butuz
wesleyw Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Not bad at all then. Too many building projects for the school for us to get that kind of funding. Wes
jsnetman Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 The investment planner takes everything into account. If you are talking about a network budget we are given £2500 a year to keep things ticking over. Mind you we spend a lot more than that. The investment planner takes into account your technicians on costs, staff training regarding ICT, how many PC's you have and the renewal policy and a whole load more other things.
Butuz Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Right I'll give the investment planner a go! Should be amusing based on the last 3 years budgets Butuz 1
Guest coquet636 Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 My budget is £12,000. With that i have to buy : all parts required for repairs or replacements Printer cartridges for all the printers on the curriculum network Projector bulbs Paper The old ict co-ordinators lease agreement.......... Annual subscriptions, i.e. netsupport, broadband Stationary Wall mounted speakers and installation Anything left is spent on errrr... still waiting for some left over..... Then every year i have to submit a bid for money from the capital money which all departments of the school bid for. Last year i got nothing, the year before i got £2000 for a server, the year before that i got nothing. So this year i bid for over £30,000!!! I thought why go for little bids and get rejected, go big, and the tactic worked.. got everything i wanted and the boss wanted extra stuff so ended up with 43,500 to spend... well thats pending governors meeting tonight.......
Edu-IT Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 We have approx 1000 students, was given a budget of less than 10k. Ouch. well thats pending governors meeting tonight....... Good luck.
Sylv3r Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 We have this year: 19k Broadband 5k Remaining Harnesssing Technologies 12k Consumables 8k Maintenance And after my presentation at Governors this morning we have the goahead for a £105k lease over 3 years. So this year in total we will have: £79k for a school of 1400 students (inc Sixth Form)
DanW Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 around £220k - 600 pupils (100 Primary) ... although we are independent
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