SimpleSi Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 @stewart Don't hold back - let it all out PS r u coming down next week to the conf? regards Simon
localzuk Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 £19.5k down here now, 220 computers, 8 Windows servers (2 running vmware which run -> 4 linux servers), 1 apple server, 2 ISCSI SAN devices, 13 managed switches, 30 IWB's, 1 linux phone server and 40 voip phone extensions, all the sound equipment in the school, all the lighting equipment in the hall and drama studio, for 600 pupils and 110 staff.
Face-Man Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 unfortunately schools will try and get blood out NM for next to nothing because they can I recently had an Job agency phone me up to ask if I needed a technician. I asked what salary they would want and it was higher than mine . I then asked what they would what for a NM and it was £50k. Sure you don't get Pension or job security but with BSF coming in it thats going anyway. I told them to email the CV of this technician to my line manager which I used to ask for money.. Unfortunately they have no money well not for support staff anyway 1
joe90bass Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 SO 1/2 circa £24k at the moment. I got onto this scale by writing to the governing body asking for a py rise and stating what I was doing and what had been done since I started. The first time they said no, teh second I had an interview lined up elsewhere (lucky timing!) so they said yes :-) 520 PCs and laptops, 7 servers, 2 sites, one technician (I'm the NM) and until recently I was teaching some 6th form courses. I'm also planning the ICT setup for our new PFI (Thank god not BSF) school which opens in Sept
StewartKnight Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 @simplesi Can't make it to the conf I'm afraid Simon, I'm in Tenerife, checking out my new job!
SteveBentley Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 I'm appalled by this thread, I hadn't realised schools paid so poorly for the people who keep the place running. I work in one of the Schools of a University. Much of the infrastrucure (network, domain etc) is handled centrally so we deal with supporting users in our area and providing specific bits of infrastructure that just our area need. The lowest paid member of our team in the School is on Grade 5 which is between £18-21k depending on how long you've been collecting annual increments. So I'm amazed at how little NMs with so much more responsibility are paid. Compare ths job spec (not from my institution) with that of an NM Newcastle University: AV/IT Technician I just don't know how schools can justify such poor pay.
cookie_monster Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Damn you, how did you land that is it IT related? Do you speak any spanish? Damn you .... oh i already said that :-)
Rozzer Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 On 25K here with 450 Workstations and 120 Laptops and 10 Servers with 1100 Students. I think thats the same for all techies in my area. Ross
StewartKnight Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 @cookie monster It is IT related....... I'm afraid I'm......... TEACHING ICT to kids in a private British school, so, I don't need to speak Spanish, The computers (OS, keyboard etc) are also in English!
cookie_monster Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Hmm i'm a smidge jealous (well except for the teaching bit :-)) good luck mate. I'm learning Spanish at the moment and i have to say it's the most straight forward language i've tried so far so i think you should pick it up easily if you feel you want to give it a try. ---------------------------------------------------------- I feel I’ve hijacked the thread and not contributed sorry. Approx £25k, Derbyshire. 500 Stations, 50 laptops, 8 Servers, IP Camera network, video conference suite, 110 ish staff and 1400 students.
Satch Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 The money isn't attractive so what else keeps a Network manager at a school? I doubt its the holidays I would expect this to be the best time for upgrades/maintenance.
cookie_monster Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 As backend software tends to be fairly cheap you can stay relatively upto date on the latest technology (which keeps it interesting) and you also get to decide what's happening and what direction you should take. You don't tend to get that level of freedom in most companies or a 6 week break to try your ideas :-) There’s also the feeling that if you do your job well then you are helping make a difference, every penny saved can go on the students education rather than a companies books.
Koocha Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 12k - 50 odd workstations, 20 odd laptops, 1 server, 50 staff, 400 kids. And I teach ICT too
cookie_monster Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 And I teach ICT too Wow, the school really should be paying you more if they expect you to teach.
Sylv3r Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Disgraceful, imagine them getting rid of a teacher and then advertising the same post for half the pay. This happens - its called employing an NQT. 1
jcollings Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 The money isn't attractive so what else keeps a Network manager at a school? I doubt its the holidays I would expect this to be the best time for upgrades/maintenance. Partly the holidays - I'm term time only +2. The variety of things I get to play with, the non IT things I get to do, the kids, good friends etc.
martynbez Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 600+ pc 12 server's each classroom with Interactive whitebroad/projector (200 call it) plus everything that goes with it! 2 tech's on 17k each and a network manager with a very bad back who does all he can (think his on about 25k)!
Lazzaman123 Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 I'm new here obviously! Saw this thread and had to join I'm currently a IT technician at a large secondary school based in kent. we have 1600+ pupils and 200+ teaching staff with 50+ Support staff. We have over 900 student workstations, 50 staff workstations and 50+ student laptops with 200+ staff laptops. We run 9 servers, mostly 2k and 2k3 with an internet proxy and very confusing telephone system with over 200 phones. We have 43 HP Procurve switches across 15 cabinets all with fibre uplinks, and over 100 HP Access points over the site. 90% of our classrooms have Smart boards and projectors and we have 90 network printers. We recently bought 115 new student workstations and 3 new servers and are migrating the entire network from RM CC3 to a standardised in-house windows 2k3 network over the 6 week summer :S. Alongside all of this we are refurbing 4 new IT rooms with ceiling, carpet, desking, paint, A/C and workstations also over the 6 weeks. Whilst also preparing to deploy our brand new frog VLE and school website. There is one network manager and two technicians turning this on its head how much would pay us annually?? and would you say we need another member of staff? Thanks, !
DSapseid Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 Im on 14.5k pro rata down to about 12k supporting 250 pc's, 60 laptops, 10 servers, 15 iwbs, 40 printers, wireless, 700 pupils, 60 staff, 3 primary schools (another 100 machines and laptops), me an another tech who is on bit less than me. Current job title is ict technician but have asked to be made network manager on bout 24k, i have hear that i am not going to get this but be made senior ict tech on about 13k as there is no money in the school. However a member of staff was offered another job at a local school so he was offered more money and new job title to stay took it, other school then offered him more money so he was offered promotion and another pay rise here!!! So yeh there is no money!!! Said member of staff is now head of ICT and couldnt organise a pi55 up in a brewery when it comes to IT.
reggiep Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 we have 1600+ pupils and 200+ teaching staff with 50+ Support staff. We have over 900 student workstations, 50 staff workstations and 50+ student laptops with 200+ staff laptops. We recently bought 115 new student workstations There is one network manager and two technicians Does this mean in total there are just three of you to support over 1300 workstations? That does seem like a massive number of machines for three staff. That just seems infeasible.
Lazzaman123 Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 Does this mean in total there are just three of you to support over 1300 workstations? That does seem like a massive number of machines for three staff. That just seems infeasible. well 1300 physical workstations not that they all work... Myself and one of the other technicinans spend most of the day rebuilding broken workstations and laptops whilst also trying to juggle the standard user/level 1 replated problems. We just about manage to do it, but its very stressful! I thinks we do need another guy/gal really
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