Harry1980 Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 Hi all, I am looking for some advice and recommendation on visualizers. Currently we use TTs visualizers that are about 10 years old, which are useless. The only function they have is focus and light. We do not have a massive budget. We want to use the visualizers to display work and text books on the IWB. The visualizers need to be compatible with windows 7 to windows 10. They need to have the function of focusing, zooming in and out etc. Any help will be most appreciated. Thank you in advance
HBPS Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 Buy Easi-View Visualiser | TTS these are what i use as all they are is a glorified webcam on a stick.
Harry1980 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Posted September 14, 2017 Are they any good? We have TTS easi-view visualisers older versions that are rubbish. Do they have any functionalities?
ITBadger Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 Hue HD cameras are popular with staff at our place. Dead easy to use and install and portable too should the need arise. https://huehd.com/
hardtailstar Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 The primary school I used to work in had an older version of these. Worked really well. Bit pricey though.
DavR Posted September 15, 2017 Posted September 15, 2017 We use IPevo Ziggi HD visualisers - https://www.amazon.co.uk/IPEVO-Ziggi-HD-High-Definition-Document-Camera/dp/B008DBF5Z8 The picture quality is great and they're really flexible, but I wouldn't recommend them, the joints break.
SamanthaD Posted September 15, 2017 Posted September 15, 2017 Define not a massive budget? We use a mix of visualisers, but our preferred is Elmo. The P10HD would be more than enough I'm sure, but is around £800 a pop!
steveg Posted September 15, 2017 Posted September 15, 2017 We have some Aver ones which are very good, and can work directly with a projector / screen. If budgets are tighter and you are happy going through a pc (which has other advantages too) then the Hue HD usb ones are very good, especially for the cost. Steve
Sylv3r Posted September 15, 2017 Posted September 15, 2017 We've stuck to Epson, we've had a mixture and the Epson appear to be best - robust, good quality and are software driven so just requires a USB cable into the PC rather than teachers having to mess about with VGA cables.
HBPS Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Buy Easi-View Pro Visualiser | TTS sorry i posted the wrong link i bought theses for just under £100 each full functionality
RobFuller Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Very impressed with the HoverCam Solo 8
Dom_ Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 We scrapped visualisers, bought Airserver licenses for each teacher PC and just airplay from an ipad (open camera app)
Koldov Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 We use a mixture of these and an older version: AVerVision F17HD+ Flexible Arm Visualizer Document Camera | AVer Global They aren't cheap and although I understand the 'just a webcam on a stick' comment, I think it depends on if the teachers are going to use all the extra functionality. Or you can look at the extras as being a form of future proofing and the software helps with annotating the image as well. We tried cheaper models, but were plagued with software issues and lighting (50/60Hz problems - lines on the screen). Some wouldn't really produce a clear enough image, some wouldn't zoom, some wouldn't even load the software. It was a bit of a struggle to convince the SLT to shift their expectations, but when I did get one of the cheaper ones to work it was obvious they weren't going to be any good in a real world classroom scenario, there was no real zoom without quality loss/lag and the room had to be light (which meant the projected image was washed out on the screen). The Aver ones are much better quality (and rightly so... £££) but they are a bit more robust and easy for the teachers to use (as they have auto focus/auto image buttons). You can use either a VGA/HDMI (directly to the projectoror) or USB through a PC/laptop to use the software.
Harry1980 Posted September 18, 2017 Author Posted September 18, 2017 I have used Airserver few years ago at a different school. With Airserver can you lock it down? for example I don't want class 4s teacher accidently connecting to class 4j laptop.
DavR Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) I have used Airserver few years ago at a different school. With Airserver can you lock it down? for example I don't want class 4s teacher accidently connecting to class 4j laptop. We're using AirServer too (it's brilliant btw, would totally recommend above buying Apple TVs etc). As far as I know there is no way of restricting which device can AirPlay to which receiving PC, but we've got round this by not having AirServer run on Startup. Teachers have to launch the AirServer receiver on their PC, then the iPad makes a connection. We haven't chosen to replace visualisers with iPad / AirServer though. The visualisers can be angled and placed above documents etc, iPads not easily. Edited September 18, 2017 by DavR
atcoates Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 You can control air server with their "Installing Air Server for Windows" guide which they will email you upon request. Also possible if you have an mdm solution you can control which Ipads can connect to which air server etc. Meraki MDM has a "AirPlay" payload which can be used for this. "Configuring AirServer AirServer for Windows can be configured during the installation process by setting properties. Properties can be set either directly on the command line when using msiexec.exe or by using a transform file (MST). AirServer can also be configured by using the command line tool AirServerConsole.exe after AirServer has been installed." - - - Updated - - - 1
jthompson Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 The visualisers we have are all Aver models. Some of them a pretty old now, but they're robust and work well. Where they're used, they're connected directly to the projector (through the wall socket) and laptops connect to the projector using a pass-through on the visualiser base.
ChrisERoots Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 IPEvo Ziggi HD's have served me well the last year or so. I haven't had one break yet and overall have been solid. Works via USB and the program it comes with is simple to use which is my basic requirement for everything.
DavR Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 IPEvo Ziggi HD's have served me well the last year or so. I haven't had one break yet and overall have been solid. Works via USB and the program it comes with is simple to use which is my basic requirement for everything. The program itself is simple and pleasant enough.... from a deployment point of view though the current Windows 10 MSI mucks up C++ if you've got it installed (and by extension SCCM client in my instance!), and is a £$%^ for turning off the auto update function...
Harry1980 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Posted September 20, 2017 I am looking to purchase either the AverVision U50 or AverVision U70, most likely the U50 as this is within our budget. Has anyone come across these or used them before? Any feedback will be much appreciated.
paulellam Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 Our school has had these and the earlier varients for years, never fail and work a treat. https://www.geneeworld.com/product/genee-vision-8100hd-visualiser/
LeMarchand Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 Our school has had these and the earlier varients for years, never fail and work a treat. https://www.geneeworld.com/product/genee-vision-8100hd-visualiser/ One of my schools uses those, but they seem to be mainly used as glorified OHPs. I see teachers print out stuff to show via the visualiser rather than just their laptop .
maark Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 we use these https://www.amazon.co.uk/IPEVO-Dual-Mode-Document-Camera-Visualizer/dp/B00ETT3WB2 push presenter software out to laptops - work pretty well
Harry1980 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Posted September 20, 2017 Our school has had these and the earlier varients for years, never fail and work a treat. https://www.geneeworld.com/product/genee-vision-8100hd-visualiser/ Wow your school must have money. They cost £800+, way out our budget. thanks anyway.
Harry1980 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Posted September 20, 2017 we use these https://www.amazon.co.uk/IPEVO-Dual-Mode-Document-Camera-Visualizer/dp/B00ETT3WB2 push presenter software out to laptops - work pretty well I've had a quote for them. Are they any good? how is the picture quality and focus? our main purpose of them will be in guided reading. They want to put the story book under the visualiser so that the pupils in class can read together. it will be connected to the laptop on to the IWB.
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