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DrPopkorne

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I saw this pop up on my Pixel while on the bus to work... merely minutes after I grabbed a Costa-to-go!

 

Mind you.... what's a little fecal matter if it tastes nice right? (I keep telling myself)

mikeprice

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I saw this pop up on my Pixel while on the bus to work... merely minutes after I grabbed a Costa-to-go!

 

Mind you.... what's a little fecal matter if it tastes nice right? (I keep telling myself)

 

Ice - in Coffee

silly idea

 

mind you - sounds like people not washing their hands - which is unacceptable

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Joanne

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nothing more gip-tastic than a cold coffee. Tried one once. Never again.

 

Side note... if it doesn't kill you... does it really matter? I ate a strawb off the allotment last night and didn't wash it... I blew off the creepy crawlies, but who knows if that seed was alive or not? DOWN THE HATCH!

3s-gtech

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What doesn't kill you...may cause you lifelong and crippling injuries, eh? A bad bacterial infection in your gut may either cause you to have the worst couple of nights of your life, or leave you with serious gastro-intestinal damage. I'd just rather not consume someone else's ice-poo. Handwashing time (and the source of the ice needs checking, in case it's from the mains and there's a major issue there).
HTCPCP

HTCPCP

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I know that making a cup of coffee usually means a larger job comes up meaning I get to drink it cold, but the idea of putting ice in my coffee...
DCUK6

DCUK6

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Have none of your tried Mc Donalds iced mocha...?

 

The first time i tried i went back for another. Lovely.

 

Am i just weird?

sparkeh

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Have none of your tried Mc Donalds iced mocha...?

 

The first time i tried i went back for another. Lovely.

 

Am i just weird?

Anyone who likes coffee is just weird :target:

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jdoyle

jdoyle

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not a coffee freak myself and can go without. The odd cup of instant is fine by me with a dribble of milk. No sugar. Clean mug and spoon please. Definitely no ice or other contaminants.
mikeprice

mikeprice

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First off, Coffee is for waking up or a pick me up mid day.

It should be in a large man sized cup.

It should contain copious amounts of milk and be served hot!!

 

It is not an art form, or to be extrapolated into anything that means people who serve it manufacture a fancy name for themselves or charge fortunes for what essentially is a stronger alternative to tea !

 

I agree - except for the milk

 

it should be black and strong - the way $deity intended

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jthompson

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So, energy is spent both boiling and freezing water, to bring together a normal temperature drink. Is that right?

 

I drink about one cup of coffee a week (hot black coffee on Saturday morning with a leisurely breakfast) and have only ever bought tea from coffee shops, even though the tea is always a bit nasty.

ICTDirect_Dave

ICTDirect_Dave

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which makes me worry about the water they use for the coffee

 

Dave Gorman addressed this in Modern Life is goodish.

 

Coffee shops make (usually) excellent coffee. But to make excellent coffee requires less than boiling water.

Since they use the same hot water to make a cup of tea, you get under-brewed tea as the water that gets put into it is never hot enough!

pcstru

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Coffee shops make (usually) excellent coffee. But to make excellent coffee requires less than boiling water.

IMO that is an urban legend. Coffee is roasted at temperatures far in excess of 100deg C, so what do people think happens when you brew it at 100deg C vs 98 deg c? If anyone could tell the difference in a proper double blind test, I'd be gob smacked.

jthompson

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Dave Gorman addressed this in Modern Life is goodish.

 

Coffee shops make (usually) excellent coffee. But to make excellent coffee requires less than boiling water.

Since they use the same hot water to make a cup of tea, you get under-brewed tea as the water that gets put into it is never hot enough!

 

I've a feeling that my issues with coffee shop tea is more to do with the tea itself, rather than the water. It tends to be a bit herbally and smelly for my taste. I usually get a large tea whenever I go to the cinema, and my local Cineworld recently switched to having a Starbucks provide all their hot drinks. Longer, slower queues and smelly tea. Sad!

ICTDirect_Dave

ICTDirect_Dave

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IMO that is an urban legend. Coffee is roasted at temperatures far in excess of 100deg C, so what do people think happens when you brew it at 100deg C vs 98 deg c? If anyone could tell the difference in a proper double blind test, I'd be gob smacked.

 

There are some pretty big differences between roasting the beans and then brewing them. Two completely different techniques for a start. How a much bean is roasted has a direct bearing on the best temperature an espresso machine needs to make a tasty coffee.

 

Darker roasts require lower temps(typically 70-85 deg) to extract the best, whilst lighter roasts require higher temps(up to 98 deg). Pressure should be the same throughout.

 

The reason the big chain coffee shops have a coffee that always tastes the same wherever you buy it is that they always over-roast their beans. This darker, almost burnt roast needs far lower temperatures to make a decent coffee so the machines run cooler. which in turn saves the company a little cash and has makes the tea taste worse :)

 

I will agree that herbally tea sucks for the most part however :)

pcstru

pcstru

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There are some pretty big differences between roasting the beans and then brewing them. Two completely different techniques for a start. How a much bean is roasted has a direct bearing on the best temperature an espresso machine needs to make a tasty coffee.

Yes they are two different things with roasting typically exposing beans to temperatures in excess of 200 deg C. My point is there is no magic in the 100degC figure as opposed to 95 deg C, beans will not "burn" if exposed to boiling water (they have already been subject to far higher temperatures), the main effect of higher temperature water is to accelerate the extraction process so the same outcome can generally be had by adjusting the extraction time. IMO the biggest problem people have brewing coffee is they leave it brewing for far too long and over extract, leading to a bitter brew.

 

I've yet to meet an espresso machine that allows temperature selection. Espresso is an extraction process. An espresso is 7 grams of ground coffee compressed into a puck through which 1fl oz of water is pumped at 9bar, 198degF for 25 seconds. Normally the only operator variable is the grind and tamp (how hard you pack the puck), but Barista's will try to get a consistent Tamp so . So if you are pouring long (>25 seconds to produce 1fl) you tend to adjust for a coarser grind and if you are short, you make it finer.

 

Darker roasts require lower temps(typically 70-85 deg) to extract the best, whilst lighter roasts require higher temps(up to 98 deg). Pressure should be the same throughout.

If my espresso machine started delivering water at 70deg C, I'd throw it out!

psydii

psydii

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Once you have a decent bean/blend and roast, the next thing is the brew time.

 

https://shop.squaremilecoffee.com/products/red-brick

 

This (IMHO) it the best coffee that is 'readily' available at multiple coffee shops (well in London and some other metropolitan areas), though the blend does change season by season. To get the best out of it needs to be brewed long, a barista in a hurry never makes a good cup of Red Brick. Also it needs time to cool before drinking, just above luke-warm allows for the best flavours. Americano made with it is always served in significantly smaller cups that you get in the large chains, but oooh boy is it good. If you want it cold - just let it cool.

 

Works great with milk or without.

 

 

If you want iced coffee without the poop, you can always make your own:

https://workshopcoffee.com/blogs/journal/brewing-iced-filter-coffee-at-home

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