Is Wi-Fi making your child ill?

[Arthur]

I guess the Government has little worries of Wi-Fi causing health issues too...

Free wi-fi to be provided in all NHS buildings

 

That's good news! With free Wi-Fi there also won't be any need to pay the exorbitant prices hospitals charge to watch TV.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110905/Hospital-patients-paying-10-day-watch-TV-prisoners-pay-just-1.html

[sted]

I guess the Government has little worries of WiFi causing health issues too...

Free wi-fi to be provided in all NHS buildings - Jeremy Hunt - BBC News

so free wifi but you have to pay for parking i know which id rather have

[Garacesh]

I agree. Always hardwire where possible. Jitter is one hell of an annoyance

 

Not seen one of them here. My guess is it'll be aimed at primary schools more than secondary schools anyway. Seems more of a "Please, won't somebody think of the children?!" thing.

 

I'm guessing that their children aren't allowed to own mobile phones, use television remotes or play with radio-controlled toy cars, either, hm?

Edited August 1, 2016 by Garacesh

[MrKJLS]

I agree. Always hardwire where possible. Jitter is one hell of an annoyance[emoji14]

Not seen one of them here. My guess is it'll be aimed at primary schools more than secondary schools anyway. Seems more of a "Please, won't somebody think of the children?!" thing.

 

I'm guessing that their children aren't allowed to own mobile phones, use television remotes or play with radio-controlled toy cars, either, hm?

The best about it was that we are a secondary school with 50+ WiFi aps

[DJ-1701]

Don't forget those 'wirelss baby monitors', professional type up there.

If there was a legitimate concern I would very much hope the WHO and most Governments would have something to say after all this time.

[MrKJLS]

Don't forget those 'wirelss baby monitors', professional type up there.

If there was a legitimate concern I would very much hope the WHO and most Governments would have something to say after all this time.

I would like to think so as well. It's a professional poster, don't knock it[emoji14]

[smurfomatic]

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I got the joy of taking this down this morning. Anyone else had one of these?

 

Edit: here's a better quality version

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/428808610553840/photos/a.429919780442723.1073741828.428808610553840/826977447403619/?type=3

 

Wouldn't be much point at our school - not only do the stone buildings make wi-fi a nightmare (hence 38 APs rather than a dozen or so) but we also have a mobile phone mast in the middle of our playing field...

[Arreks]

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I got the joy of taking this down this morning. Anyone else had one of these?

 

Edit: here's a better quality version

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/428808610553840/photos/a.429919780442723.1073741828.428808610553840/826977447403619/?type=3

 

 

I'm usually open-minded to ideas and opinions.

 

Except this one.

[mavhc]

I assume all their kids wear faraday cages when they leave their lead lined houses

[6Foot2]

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I got the joy of taking this down this morning. Anyone else had one of these?

 

Edit: here's a better quality version

 

https://www.facebook.com/428808610553840/photos/a.429919780442723.1073741828.428808610553840/826977447403619/?type=3

 

Co-incidentally I read about GRBs today:

 

Link: How Black Holes Can Kill Us From Light Years Away

 

As they could wipe out all life on Earth, perhaps these should not be allowed either?

 

[MrKJLS]

I assume all their kids wear faraday cages when they leave their lead lined houses

We are going to issuing tin foil hats as part of the school uniform...

 

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[elsiegee40]

I thought I had better not derail the cool things thread and post my response here.

 

http://www.edugeek.net/forums/behind-red-door/27257-what-cool-thing-s-did-u-do-today-685.html#post1486494

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I got the joy of taking this down this morning. Anyone else had one of these?

 

Edit: here's a better quality version

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/428808610553840/photos/a.429919780442723.1073741828.428808610553840/826977447403619/?type=3

 

The organisation organising this links to this article

Wi-Fi radiation warning by Lloyd's of London

 

Here are some simple ways to protect yourself from Wi-Fi radiation:

- Hardwire your Internet connection: Use an Ethernet cable for your computer connection to avoid radio frequency radiation exposures. Remember to disable the built-in Wi-Fi on your computer once you have an Ethernet connection.

- Turn off your router: If you keep your Wi-Fi router – turn it off at night and when you are not using it.

- Keep your distance: Keep away from your computer when downloading large amounts of data on Wi-Fi.

- Cell phone Wi-Fi: Activate the Wi-Fi on your cell phone only when accessing WiFi. Otherwise, turn it off.

- Watch out for Wi-Fi: Limit, as much as possible, the time you spend in places with Wi-Fi such as, coffee shops and other public places.

Edited August 1, 2016 by elsiegee40

[pete]

The organisation organising this links to this article

Wi-Fi radiation warning by Lloyd's of London

 

Anti-vaxxers and colon cleansing adverts? Clearly a bastion of critical thinking, scientific rigour and completely unlikely to be people with tinfoil wallpaper*.

 

*yes, this is a thing. We've had some......interesting parents over the years.

[sted]

Limit, as much as possible, the time you spend in places with Wi-Fi such as, coffee shops and other public places

so basically everywhere there are people just open up the wifi settings (or wifi analyser) on your phone and see how far you have to go to get no signals i pick up about 8 at home there is probably less wifi signals in the school im in than my house. Unless you actually want to live off grid in alaska youre going to be interacting with wifi pretty much 24/7

[3s-gtech]

I really want to ban that website here, but that's kind of what they want. It's very frustrating how people can fling around pseudo-scientific phrases, clumping them into ill-conceived fluff with the overall goal of selling something (they're always selling something).

[mavhc]

Totally not trolling them on facebook

 

I warned them about CMBR, it's everywhere!

[6Foot2]

...I warned them about CMBR, it's everywhere!

 

This is one occasion where you could have used 'literally' and it would apply correctly:

 

...I warned them about CMBR, it's literally everywhere!

[MrKJLS]

Totally not trolling them on facebook

 

I warned them about CMBR, it's everywhere!

Me and my colleague are totally not trolling either

[mavhc]

I've made a better poster, also it's vector, not some low res jpeg, the worst crime of them all.

 

(There's text in the pdf, didn't come out in the thumbnail

 

no radiation.pdf

[MrKJLS]

I'm taking a look though the vistor comments on the page, let's hope this guy isn't on here...

[DJ-1701]

In the UK, I don't understand using the alternative petition websites other than the official parliament one to try to implement or change laws or procedures.

[jinnantonnixx]

I'm taking a look though the vistor comments on the page, let's hope this guy isn't on here...

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They describe themselves as highly sensitive, so they could make $1m by winning the James Randi challenge. All that remains is the ability to show that their sensitivity is real. This should be easy if their claim is true.

Edited August 5, 2016 by jinnantonnixx

[pcstru]

let's hope this guy isn't on here...

Why? Surely this is exactly the place to come to get quality information on the subject; assuming they can get past the derision.

 

I have some sympathy for these people. The 'jokes' here revolve around the fact that EMR is a wide spectrum, much of which is encountered normally in every day life. So we jest "oh well, better keep out of the sun then - har har har" - well, yes, there is a definite link between exposure to sunlight and melanoma, so sunlight is not 'safe'. The jokes then also confuse hard radiation from Gamma and Beta decays with EMR and while background radiation is encountered every day, there are still strong correlations between elevated radiation levels and elevated rates of cancer which strongly suggest that the there is some causal link between even background radiation and incidences of cancer. Even when we are talking about proper EMR, it is not simply the case that EMR is safe. You would not want to be a target for a modern steerable naval radar and you are probably generally grateful that the last microwave you used had shielding to keep the radiation on the inside. None of which is to say 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz signals as used in WiFi will cause harm to someone's health, but just that the situation is actually quite complex [*1].

 

Couple that with a nocebo effect, which will be a very real experience for people even if it appears objectively to be entirely unrelated (causally) to the presence of WiFi etc; well, for most people personal experience is the most powerful evidence there is and couple that with the truism that the easiest person for anyone to fool is themselves, it is entirely understandable that people will form a very strong belief that WiFi is harmful. Trolling and deriding them simply pushes them further into their belief.

 

[*1] So to try and illustrate that, we have a 5Ghz transmitter situated 1 meter from your head and we will vary the output power starting from 0.001W to 1,000,000W (9 orders of magnitude). At what point would you start to feel uncomfortable with this arrangement and why?

[sparkeh]

They describe themselves as highly sensitive, so they could make $1m by winning the James Randi challenge. All that remains is the ability to show that their sensitivity is real. This should be easy if their claim is true.

That has been stopped now: The Million Dollar Challenge - JREF

[Mistert89]

My late mother was concerned about the "mains power" issues which were commonly reported many years ago. There were statistical reports of an increased incidence of cancer through a town in the path of overhead power lines (statistics from a family GP practice with records over years).

 

So when she was looking at a house that had one of those small transformers at the end of the garden, she had it checked out. The field strength (micro teslars) registered within 6 feet was zero, but in the house, the field from the digital clock (the red display mains type) was significant..... And that's a couple of feet away from your head! Yet people 'fear' the overhead pylons more.....

 

And, yes, we give our kids mobile phones to hold by their brains, with wireless enabled, yet join the emotion with wifi in schools.