Gardinho Posted March 20, 2015 Author Posted March 20, 2015 I would simply say, YES I know it's a lot more but I would say Yes. And I understand the wedding will cost obvious that is, But if you are getting a phone anyway, you may as well get one you'll be happy with, And think, it's not just how it looks, what is the Oneplus one software like? Do they receive updates often, bug fixes etc for lollipop, there more questions you need to ask yourself, and also I don't suppose you can see the Oneplus in store can you? The feedback on here has generally been good for the OnePlus, which is where I do most of my research. Is the software not CyanogenMod? I'm not fully swayed one way or the other. Just playing Devils' Advocate. It's such a massive increase in price though! If it was £100 I wouldn't even think about it.
Gardinho Posted March 20, 2015 Author Posted March 20, 2015 For the cost of the HTC, I could get a OnePlus for both me & my Mrs, with money left over to take her out for dinner! Is that better @sonofsanta 1
ConnorByrne Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Yes the software is cmod And yes I have heard a mixture of things about it if I'm honest and never tried it myself, I tend the stick to what I know. And off course as it is a lot of money you want to spend on a phone, you want it to be a good one and the one you want.
mowgli82 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I love the HTC M series will be getting the M9 shortly. They are expensive but I love the build quality.
sonofsanta Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 For the cost of the HTC, I could get a OnePlus for both me & my Mrs, with money left over to take her out for dinner! Is that better @sonofsanta I'm sure you'll be thanking me in the long run My only concern with the One+ One is that it will involve a certain amount of "oh it's just like that" and "if you do it this way..." and all sorts of little nerdy compromises. I spend all day dealing with that professionally, so I've got no patience for it when it comes to my phone - it's why I've never rooted or modded in any way, because I can't be doing with the grief in my free time as well. Right, back to reading reviews of the One M8 and arguing with myself over it. I definitely don't want the M9 - the reports of battery life and heat are horrific, and Samsung deliberately chose not to use the Snapdragon 810 because of heat issues, so I'm mightily suspicious of the processor. The M8 is more than good enough, I reckons. As is my Nexus 4... it is... I don't need a new one, honest...
AMLinington Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 How horribly weighed down is the interface? Specs wise it looks pretty nice (including microSD storage, would be a godsend after my 16GB Nexus 4), and its only £23 a month for £50 upfront (500mb data is plenty enough when I can't even load Google results in my hometown, signal is so poor), but I like my plain Android, and though I can replace the homescreen with the standard Google Now Launcher, I don't want the notifications etc. to be filled with guff. Never used an LG phone (apart from the N4) so I don't know if they're as bad as Samsung with TouchWiz etc. Well. Out the box the interface has a bunch of junk but this is all removable and you can customise the interface to your little hearts content. There are very few 'mandatory' apps (you know, the ones you never use but which are included because of various deals with people) and Lollipop has tidied up a bunch of stuff so all in all it's really nice. When you say 'weighed down' what sorts of things are you specifically looking to avoid?
Ant Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 When I look at the OnePlus & the HTC side-by-side: OnePlus 64GB - £235.99 (If I can get one) HTC One M9 32GB - £600ish I think the only thing the htc has over it is camera, and possibly the fact it plays .mkvs (but I'm sure there will be a format option if you copy something to the device and it cannot play the file). It's interesting that the one+ his been out a year and the new htc that isn't out yet has a similar spec. The price difference is the biggest factor for me when I look at it. The burning question ...... is the higher build quality on the HTC worth £365 more??? No way, not that much. Personally no phone is worth that much more over the OPO now knowing how capable the OPO is, in my opinion of course! The HTC may be better built, but that's not to say the OPO is poorly built and definitely not £330 more worth. 64GB OPO is currently £269. Mind you, I did read that they are very close to making little to no money on them in Europe, hence the proposed increase in purchase price. I suspect the price difference is mostly profit for HTC/Samsung/etc. Updates for the OPO have been regular, far more than my last Samsung. CyanogenMod 12S (the versions specific for the OnePlus One) is due for release imminently, as is OPO's own new OS OxygenOS, both of which are Lollipop, admittedly both a little late to the game. CyanogenMod as an OS is great (internal politics aside), as close to Vanilla Android as I've ever seen. Been using it for a long time. Also, .mkv's play fine! 1
Gardinho Posted March 20, 2015 Author Posted March 20, 2015 No way, not that much. Personally no phone is worth that much more over the OPO now knowing how capable the OPO is, in my opinion of course! The HTC may be better built, but that's not to say the OPO is poorly built and definitely not £330 more worth. 64GB OPO is currently £269. Mind you, I did read that they are very close to making little to no money on them in Europe, hence the proposed increase in purchase price. I suspect the price difference is mostly profit for HTC/Samsung/etc. Updates for the OPO have been regular, far more than my last Samsung. CyanogenMod 12S (the versions specific for the OnePlus One) is due for release imminently, as is OPO's own new OS OxygenOS, both of which are Lollipop, admittedly both a little late to the game. CyanogenMod as an OS is great (internal politics aside), as close to Vanilla Android as I've ever seen. Been using it for a long time. Also, .mkv's play fine! Thanks for commenting @Ant. Is there anything you don't like about the OPO? There has been plenty of time since the original release, so you'd hope many software bugs have been ironed out. I have no doubt that the HTC would be better, but how much better?? The reviews would suggest not all that much. Certainly not enough to justify the price difference. At the end of the day if I get the OPO then don't like it, I can still eBay it and take a relatively small hit on it. The extra £350 can go towards a new 75" TV, which will be my next purchase!
Arthur Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 When you say 'weighed down' what sorts of things are you specifically looking to avoid? I reckon this sort of thing... www.theverge.com/2015/3/13/8206953/lg-g-flex-2-review Android 5.0 Lollipop is easily my favorite mobile operating system, but LG’s implementation of it has left me dismayed. For starters, LG’s notifications menu is crowded out by super-sized setting toggles and sliders. The first note about incoming email or missed calls is halfway down the screen, and I rarely see more than two notifications before having to scroll. Did I mention that the scrolling is laggy? That chronic lag also spoils the other jewels in Android’s crown. Google's homegrown apps like Gmail, Google Keep, and Docs feel clumsy and slow. When trying to open up Google Keep in a hurry, I managed to tap the icon three times before anything happened on screen — resulting in me entering a list note and checking off one of the items as done. www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_flex2-review-1209p4.php http://a.pomf.se/rluxjo.jpg
sonofsanta Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Well. Out the box the interface has a bunch of junk but this is all removable and you can customise the interface to your little hearts content. There are very few 'mandatory' apps (you know, the ones you never use but which are included because of various deals with people) and Lollipop has tidied up a bunch of stuff so all in all it's really nice. When you say 'weighed down' what sorts of things are you specifically looking to avoid? Weighed down is things like this, on the G2, where half the notifications tray is already filled up: I decided against the G3 in the end, as I think 1440p on a phone is overkill and destroys the battery life for very little gain. I might have to look at the OPO review on Anandtech again, if it's close to stock and gotten sturdy enough...
Ant Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Thanks for commenting @Ant. Is there anything you don't like about the OPO? There has been plenty of time since the original release, so you'd hope many software bugs have been ironed out. To be honest, not really! Wireless charging would've been nice, and the although the camera is good, it could be a little better. Software was a bit buggy to start off with, and some users had issues as mentioned by a few on here, but mine is currently rock solid. Battery life has been unbelievable compared to any other phone I've tried. The HTC is pretty, and no doubt a great phone too, but when comparing what you get for your money, I'd struggle to explain why the HTC is that much better than the OnePlus to justify the price difference. The same probably applies to most phones in this spec bracket. Edited March 20, 2015 by Ant 1
Joanne Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I'm an HTC fanboi... (or fangurl) I don't have to justify my expenditure!! Pah hahahahah!! #TeamHTC (At this point I may as well get an iPhone 6+ and have done with it) 2
Gardinho Posted March 20, 2015 Author Posted March 20, 2015 I'm an HTC fanboi... (or fangurl) I don't have to justify my expenditure!! Pah hahahahah!! #TeamHTC (At this point I may as well get an iPhone 6+ and have done with it) I wish I could thank the top comment @Joanne, and unthank the bottom comment
AMLinington Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I turned off the Qslide menu bar and TBH don't really notice any lag as such. Best bet is to find someone who has one and have a play.
Arthur Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I definitely don't want the M9 - the reports of battery life and heat are horrific Fixed now! Software Update Fixes HTC One (M9) Overheating Issues A few days ago, we had a chance to see a rather interesting test of the HTC's new One (M9) flagship smartphone. The test showed that the smartphone has overheating issues caused by Snapdragon 810 and runs extremely hot, reaching up to 132 degrees (55.4° C). The company issued a statement saying that the used software is not a final version and that we'll see a completely different story with a final version. Well, the new software did fix the issue, running at approximately 100 degrees (30.7° C), which is slightly warmer than the One M8. This also means that the smartphone is ready to launch, so we could see first real reviews in the upcoming weeks.
bossman Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Had the OPO for 3 months and it just rocks!!! Having had Samsungs and HTCs plus LGs and BB and daughter has had IPhones, I can honestly say I have had no problems at all and the Lollipop update is being released at the end of this month with the option of their new Oxygen OS due out soon also which will be readily available for their release of the One Plus Two which will have more features and more memory and a different CPU type with more cores. battery life is excellent and lasts around 2 days with heavy use. The OPO is IMHO is probably the best phone around atm in both price and operation. Daughter is so impressed she has bought one 3
Garacesh Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 The OPO is IMHO is probably the best phone around atm in both price and operation. Honestly I agree, and if I had the money, I'd buy another, but I'm still paying off the first one Gonna have to put up with this piece of poop XPERIA SP for around 3 months now until I can upgrade it. Grumble.
sonofsanta Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 God help me, I'm going to go up town later to check devices out. OPO or M8. OPO is £270, M8 would work out about £480 over the two years including the MicroSD card I'd need. I like the sound of being able to tweak every last thing - even what sits in the notifications up the top, I hate that getting cluttered - but the Anandtech review wasn't too optimistic about the camera UI, and I do like my photos, especially with two young kids running round. My phone is often the only camera I have on me, and you only get one chance to capture a moment, and you want to capture it as best you can, and the M8 has a really, really good camera... Of course, it may turn out that 5.5" feels ridiculously big in my hands as well, in which case M8. But I suspect it's the sort of thing you can get used to. How's the camera been for you OPO lovers? Is it fixable by just getting a better camera app from the Play Store? 1
Garacesh Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 How's the camera been for you OPO lovers? Is it fixable by just getting a better camera app from the Play Store? I had zero issues with the OPO's stock camera. Picture quality and the flash were both a lot better than other phones I've used. 4
Danp Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I am due an upgrade soon. I changed from my One M7 to an iPhone 4s a couple of months ago for a few reasons, I fancied a change and I wanted a smaller phone. Now I have come to the conclusion I want a phone with the One M9 spec, but the size of an iPhone 4 or 5.
Gardinho Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) God help me, I'm going to go up town later to check devices out. OPO or M8. OPO is £270, M8 would work out about £480 over the two years including the MicroSD card I'd need. I've gone the complete circle now. Having done as much research as I have over the last few weeks, I'm going to go for the OPO. I can no longer justify spending £500+ on a phone, for what I use it for. The difference in price between the 2 I was torn between is about £350, which is just way too big a factor. The build quality on the HTC is obviously premium, but that's not to say the build quality on the OPO is bad. I've read quite a lot of stuff about the customer support on the OPO being diabolical, but I think it's worth the risk. There are so many independent reviews that praise the phone and have it along side the other flagships. I too was originally worried about the size (5.5"), but having had a larger phone in my hand, I think once I'm used to it I'll never really miss the smaller screen of my iPhone 4. The other reason why I'm opting for OPO is I love the look of Cyanogen, and all the benefits that comes with it. I know there is obviously draw backs like there is with every UI, but it looks as close to stock Android that you're going to find. Plus rooting it doesn't void the warranty. The flexibility and control you get and how you can tweak everything down to the fine detail is just an IT nerd's dream. What it boiled down to for me was - Are the drawbacks enough to justify paying so much more money?? Most concerns on the reviews have been addressed with software updates, so for me the only thing I'm worried about is the customer service. The price alone makes it an easy decision for me. Edited March 23, 2015 by Gardinho Corrected typo - cheers Garacesh 1
Garacesh Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I too was originally worried about the size (5.5"), but having heard a larger phone in my hand, I think once I'm used to it I'll never really miss the smaller screen of my iPhone 4. For the record, ears on your hand isn't exactly a default human feature.. You might want to get that seen to The other reason why I'm opting for OPO is I love the look of Cyanogen, and all the benefits that comes with it. I know there is obviously draw backs like there is with every UI, but it looks as close to stock Android that you're going to find. Plus rooting it doesn't void the warranty. The flexibility and control you get and how you can tweak everything down to the fine detail is just an IT nerd's dream. Be aware that the OPO's stock Cyanogen is not rooted. Also if you're not buying one direct from OnePlus, (e.g. eBay, Amazon et al) make sure you get the EU version and not the Chinese one. Chinese version runs a different ROM because censorship. 1
Gardinho Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 For the record, ears on your hand isn't exactly a default human feature.. You might want to get that seen to Be aware that the OPO's stock Cyanogen is not rooted. Also if you're not buying one direct from OnePlus, (e.g. eBay, Amazon et al) make sure you get the EU version and not the Chinese one. Chinese version runs a different ROM because censorship. Thanks Garacesh. You're right about rooting, but there seems to be plenty of useful guides to root the OPO very easily. I'd be surprised if you could find a single member of Edugeek that didn't have the skills to do it! I'll be getting mine from OnePlus in tomorrows Tuesday sale. 1
fiza Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Will the OPO still get updates for Cyanogen after they release Oxygen OS?
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