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I find it sad that more people signed the Clarkson petition than "Pardon all of the estimated 49,000 men who, like Alan Turing, were convicted of consenting same-sex relations under the British "gross indecency" law".
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I find it sad that more people signed the Clarkson petition than "Pardon all of the estimated 49,000 men who, like Alan Turing, were convicted of consenting same-sex relations under the British "gross indecency" law".

An interesting, sad contrast.

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I find it sad that more people signed the Clarkson petition than "Pardon all of the estimated 49,000 men who, like Alan Turing, were convicted of consenting same-sex relations under the British "gross indecency" law".

 

You will probably far harsher petitions that would need more looking at. Difference is though publicity... and of course what news sells.

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http://transmission.blogs.topgear.com/2015/03/19/bbc-releases-update-on-clarkson-and-top-gear/

 

“Following last week’s suspension of Jeremy Clarkson, Ken MacQuarrie is now considering the evidence and will report to the Director-General on his findings next week.

 

Once this has been considered, we will set out any further steps.

 

The BBC will not be offering further commentary until then.”

 

It has been confirmed that the TGTV episode scheduled for broadcast on Sunday 22 March will not be shown, but no official statement has been made regarding any future episodes.

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I find it sad that more people signed the Clarkson petition than "Pardon all of the estimated 49,000 men who, like Alan Turing, were convicted of consenting same-sex relations under the British "gross indecency" law".

 

In all fairness, that's probably because 1 is current events and is being publicised a lot (the news articles are mentioning the petition, for example) and the other is in the past and - in all honesty - would actually have no consequence at all. I'm happy that being gay is no longer legally considered a 'gross indecency' but to be fair, it was at the time, he did commit a crime (whether we agree that it should have been a crime or not, it was) and thus was illegal. They broke the law. It's nowhere in the same ballpark, but it's the most current example I can think of, do you think the people in $States have had possession of cannabis laws rescinded because it's legal now? That's not how the law works.

 

$States = Whichever American states have legalised it now.

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In all fairness, that's probably because 1 is current events and is being publicised a lot (the news articles are mentioning the petition, for example) and the other is in the past and - in all honesty - would actually have no consequence at all.

 

I understand that, but as the "Turing" link showed at the bottom of the "Clary" page I was assuming that it was also at the bottom of the "Clarkson" one. This may not have been the case (or maybe it was, and fans of the God of Arrogant Drivers just didn't care).

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do you think the people in $States have had possession of cannabis laws rescinded because it's legal now? That's not how the law works.

 

$States = Whichever American states have legalised it now.

 

Careful!

 

BBC News - US marijuana laws: Will records be wiped clean?

 

Colorado approves retroactive reversal of marijuana convictions ? RT USA

 

I think there is also talk of reversals at a federal level but what will happen is anyone's guess.

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BBC News - US marijuana laws: Will records be wiped clean?

 

I think there is also talk of reversals at a federal level but what will happen is anyone's guess.

Well I may end up standing corrected, then. But I don't think they should be overturned. The law is the law and they broke it. Debate amongst yourselves whether the law should have been there or not (I personally agree with the masses that it should not have been), but it was still the law.

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As much as I like Clarkson as a presenter, he should really be sacked by now. He's pushed his luck one too many times, I reckon.

 

There is another side to this story, Jeremy and the other lot where filming in an extremely cold climate. They all asked for hot food from the hotel. Turns out the producer had decided instead of giving them what they wanted to give them a cold platter of food. They where all very drunk when they got back to the hotel which didn't help and so after the rubbish day they all had to come back and not have hot food because the producer was quite frankly just being a d*** about it all, I think I'd of punched him too.

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There is another side to this story, Jeremy and the other lot where filming in an extremely cold climate. They all asked for hot food from the hotel. Turns out the producer had decided instead of giving them what they wanted to give them a cold platter of food. They where all very drunk when they got back to the hotel which didn't help and so after the rubbish day they all had to come back and not have hot food because the producer was quite frankly just being a d*** about it all, I think I'd of punched him too.

Really? I think that's a little immature, truth be told. Violence isn't an appropriate response, even if they are being a bit of a :censored:.

 

If I'm having a grumpy day, get a little drunk, head to a restaurant and the chef/waiter gets my order wrong, I'm not going to start throwing my fists around. I'd be angry and upset, which would most likely be exacerbated by my intoxicated state, but I'm not going to start hitting people.

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There is another side to this story, Jeremy and the other lot where filming in an extremely cold climate. They all asked for hot food from the hotel. Turns out the producer had decided instead of giving them what they wanted to give them a cold platter of food. They where all very drunk when they got back to the hotel which didn't help and so after the rubbish day they all had to come back and not have hot food because the producer was quite frankly just being a d*** about it all, I think I'd of punched him too.

 

...or, they decided to go down the pub after filming (apparently using a helicopter provided by the production!), turned up too late for cooked dinner and kicked off?

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...or, they decided to go down the pub after filming (apparently using a helicopter provided by the production!), turned up too late for cooked dinner and kicked off?

 

You really believe they landed a helicopter in a pub car park?

 

Really? I think that's a little immature, truth be told. Violence isn't an appropriate response, even if they are being a bit of a .

 

If I'm having a grumpy day, get a little drunk, head to a restaurant and the chef/waiter gets my order wrong, I'm not going to start throwing my fists around. I'd be angry and upset, which would most likely be exacerbated by my intoxicated state, but I'm not going to start hitting people.

 

Problem is that no body knows as of yet the exact way it all happened. It could have been the fact that the producer in question was being vile all day to Jeremy and this was just another tick box on his "Annoy Clarkson" list and mix that kind of attitude with a lot of beer and you might lash out.

 

Or of course it could be all of Jeremy's fault and he did it just because "no steak". We don't know the exact specifics all we know is that Jeremy is in trouble for punching someone and until the whole story is released it's hard to judge anyone at the moment.

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You really believe they landed a helicopter in a pub car park?

 

Why not? He's arrogant enough to. There may also have been a field near the pub - I can think of a few near me that you could do that for.

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in a tank.

Okay that's pretty awesome.

Problem is that no body knows as of yet the exact way it all happened. It could have been the fact that the producer in question was being vile all day to Jeremy and this was just another tick box on his "Annoy Clarkson" list and mix that kind of attitude with a lot of beer and you might lash out.
You might, yeah, but it's a bit childish to. But as you said, nobody really knows. *shrug* We'll see how it plays out.
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Problem is that no body knows as of yet the exact way it all happened. It could have been the fact that the producer in question was being vile all day to Jeremy and this was just another tick box on his "Annoy Clarkson" list and mix that kind of attitude with a lot of beer and you might lash out.

There is a lot of info out there and while it might not be true, it is not being denied that Clarkson kept the helicopter waiting for 2-3 hours while he, Hammond and May went off the the pub and sank a few. If he was that bothered about a hot meal, he could have sorted one out in that time.

 

There are also reports from members of the public who witnessed his ranting at the producer, which again if it was a teacher having a go at a technician, there would be a petition here calling for the reinstatement of the death penalty (even if the technician had failed to provide some service, the behaviour would still be completely unacceptable in any workplace). For him not to be rightly labelled a bully, every report so far would have to be categorically untrue.

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Jeremy Clarkson to be sacked by the BBC « The Telegraph

 

Jeremy Clarkson is to be sacked as Top Gear presenter after a BBC investigation concluded he did attack a producer on the programme.

 

Lord Hall, the Director General of the BBC, is expected to announce his decision on Wednesday after considering the findings of an internal investigation.

 

Clarkson, 54, will be thanked for his work on the hugely popular motoring show, but will be told such behaviour cannot be tolerated at the Corporation.

 

It is understood a report into the so-called ‘fracas’ at a North Yorkshire hotel, concluded that presenter spent 20 minutes verbally abusing producer Oisin Tymon, before launching a 30 second physical assault on him.

 

The outburst came after Clarkson, who is one of the BBC’s best paid stars, was informed he could not have steak and chips after a day’s filming because the hotel where they were staying had stop serving hot food.

 

But despite finally deciding to axe the show's star presenter, the BBC is planning to continue broadcasting Top Gear on BBC2.

 

According to well-placed sources, senior executives at the Corporation have been wooing Radio 2 Breakfast Show host and self- confessed ‘petrol-head’, Chris Evans in the hope he will agree to take over.

 

Evans, 48, who has one of the most prestigious car collections in Britain, including a £12 million 1963 Ferrari 250 GTO, had previously ruled himself out of the running, but bosses are keen to persuade him to sign up.

 

It is not clear whether Clarkson’s co presenters James May and Richard Hammond will remain with the programme or will join Clarkson on any new ventures.

 

It is thought Clarkson may sign for American network Netflix, which is becoming increasingly popular with global TV audiences.

 

Despite feeling he has been left with no alternative but to sack Clarkson, Lord Hall is expected to thank him for helping to build Top Gear into one of the Corporation’s crown jewels and praise him as a “brilliant broadcaster”.

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