and on that Bombshell.

[mthomas08]

What I will say is this, I am one of the 300,000 people I also know more 25+ Year olds who have their own house signing it than under 25s still living with Parents.

 

Not really a fair assessment though considering I know more 25+ than under 25.

 

Nice to see the "stereotypical Top Gear viewer attitude" accusation that we are all teens living at home with Parents instead of Parents them selves watching the show. Having seen the show live and watched the show even before the "revamp" a lot more older adults watch the show compared to teenagers when you see the audience.

 

If I was your every day throw a tantrum at what was said, I would take severe offense to that.

 

Will also say for a show some here don't like or even like Clarkson we are now on page 7 of this discussion.

@pcstru - Your right on the assault part and as I said before he should rightly be punished. We have been given very little information but by the looks of things this really has been a one off. Comparison to essentially a member of Staff who felt bullied as well as an assault. That Student should be charged to the full extent of the law which again I did say Clarkson should get. And also this isn't being covered up by the BBC which if I remember rightly the School did want to brush it under the carpet.

[abillybob]

Rather than you having the end say, you mean?

 

I'm only saying what I think should be on the BBC, if commercial channels or broadcasters want to pick it up, go for it, knock yourselves out. If commercial broadcasters don't pick it up, then that's a measure of how popular it really is.

 

I don't want a say. If it gets taken off then it gets taken off. We have to live with what the broadcaster show us. I hate all soaps like Eastenders but I know some people (Mum & OH) love watching them so I wouldn't dictate to anyone what should or shouldn't be on TV it also doesn't bother me enough to think I have to comment on them being on air (I suppose I have now but that's because I'm trying to make a point not because I feel it should or shouldn't be on Television).

 

My theory is that LiveTV should be gotten rid of anyway, I hardly see a need for it anymore, I watch a lot of good internet Television and use Catchup services I'm sure if all the programmes where move to instant streaming no one would care as much because you then as the consumer get to select the shows you want to watch and when. I'm sure eventually this is where Television content as we know will eventually move to in the later future, especially when things like Fibre Optic Broadband starts becoming the norm.

[tmcd35]

on the same note - Top Gear atleast as much as i care will be dead to me if he departs... the entire production crew could be out of a job for nothing more than handbags at 10 paces?

 

I don't understand this attitude. Again, having seen the American version of Top Gear when they put on BBC 3 a couple of years back, the format holds up very well without them. It's just (!?!) a matter of finding the right group of entertaining petrol head hosts. Clarkson isn't the only buffoon who could fill that role.

[JRowley]

I don't understand this attitude. Again, having seen the American version of Top Gear when they put on BBC 3 a couple of years back, the format holds up very well without them. It's just (!?!) a matter of finding the right group of entertaining petrol head hosts. Clarkson isn't the only buffoon who could fill that role.

 

Right but just because it works for you, doesn't mean it will work for others. Personally I watch because of that trio, I might not watch it without them, certainly I wouldn't be bothered about it if I miss it or watch it on catch up.

[sparkeh]

I don't understand this attitude. Again, having seen the American version of Top Gear when they put on BBC 3 a couple of years back, the format holds up very well without them. It's just (!?!) a matter of finding the right group of entertaining petrol head hosts. Clarkson isn't the only buffoon who could fill that role.

True. How about Katie Hopkins for equal opportunities moronity?

[HarryMonkey]

My theory is that LiveTV should be gotten rid of anyway, I hardly see a need for it anymore, I watch a lot of good internet Television and use Catchup services I'm sure if all the programmes where move to instant streaming no one would care as much because you then as the consumer get to select the shows you want to watch and when. I'm sure eventually this is where Television content as we know will eventually move to in the later future, especially when things like Fibre Optic Broadband starts becoming the norm.

 

I'm sure there are many people in rural and remote areas with the barest of Internet connectivity would disagree completely as well as those who can't afford or simply don't want connectivity.

[DGardiner]

I don't understand this attitude. Again, having seen the American version of Top Gear when they put on BBC 3 a couple of years back, the format holds up very well without them. It's just (!?!) a matter of finding the right group of entertaining petrol head hosts. Clarkson isn't the only buffoon who could fill that role.

 

 

so good it tanked after a season - it was horrible, also i don't even watch it for the cars i watch it for the challenges because its funny? so maybee why you and i don't see the same thing without him, and while may and hammond may be just as good a presenter it takes the 3 of them together.

[tmcd35]

so good it tanked after a season - it was horrible, also i don't even watch it for the cars i watch it for the challenges because its funny? so maybee why you and i don't see the same thing without him, and while may and hammond may be just as good a presenter it takes the 3 of them together.

 

Still going after 4 seasons. There was an older USA attempt, but the current run proves its about getting the right 3 presenters, which they have done, and sticking to the UK format. I can't believe there isn't another Oaf in telly land (or can be employed into telly land) that can stand next to May and Hammond and shout POWEERRR every now and then. I like Clarkson, hope it doesn't go, but he is far from irreplaceable.

 

Tanner Fraust, the rally driver teaching May in the last episode, is one of the US presenters, and was introduced as such.

Edited March 11, 2015 by tmcd35

[abillybob]

I'm sure there are many people in rural and remote areas with the barest of Internet connectivity would disagree completely as well as those who can't afford or simply don't want connectivity.

 

I say move out of the dark ages, everything is connected now and it's there to make life easier not harder. Ofcom | Facts & figures says that 77% (22.6 Million) of adults in 2014 had some type of Broadband connection 26.7% already have Fibre Optic.

Here Official TV Licensing website - Licences facts and figures shows that at 2013 25.3 Million people purchase a TV license nationwide in the UK.

 

Already the numbers of Broadband users and TV License payers are close. I can also name several places near me that can't get a Digital TV signal (Sky satellite they can get) but can get Broadband connection, why would you not get the Broadband connection? It's cheaper for one, it has a lot more services to offer than any TV package.

 

Also there is a government scheme going at the moment which is working with the likes of BT to ensure that all homes have a Broadband connection by I think the end of 2016? Not all home have easily accessible TV signal.

 

Like it or not I believe on demand Television is where it will all in the end result to, people whined about moving from analogue signal to digital, well guess what they had to deal with it in the end, we can't continue to live in the past because a couple of people in the nation prefer to live in the dark ages, otherwise we'd all still be using Betamax.

 

Edit: oh and forgot to mention the much higher convenience in streaming shows at anytime at any place when you'd like and be able to choose what show and when is a lot more convenient for the end user than a TV guide is.

Edited March 11, 2015 by abillybob

[JRowley]

The petition has now reached 400,000 people.

[LeMarchand]

What I will say is this, I am one of the 300,000 people

 

 

Will also say for a show some here don't like or even like Clarkson we are now on page 7 of this discussion.

 

@pcstru - Your right on the assault part and as I said before he should rightly be punished. We have been given very little information but by the looks of things this really has been a one off.

 

If you agree with @pcstru, why sign the petition? Surely if it's something that needs proper investigation that should trump your desire to watch TG?

 

As for seven pages, I guess that if Kim Jong-un was the presenter things would be equally as heated.

[tmcd35]

As for seven pages, I guess that if Kim Jong-un was the presenter things would be equally as heated.

 

*starts petition to replace Clarkson with Kim Jong-un*

[LeMarchand]

I say move out of the dark ages, everything is connected now and it's there to make life easier not harder.

Also there is a government scheme going at the moment which is working with the likes of BT to ensure that all homes have a Broadband connection by I think the end of 2016?

 

Whilst I'm lucky enough to be able to choose to live somewhere that has fibre, not everyone is so fortunate. BB everywhere by the end of next year? Dream on! (Unless some railway type definitions of broadband are utilised - e.g. 100k? Broadband!).

[CHR1S]

Gonna make myself really unpopular here: but I do think that OF&H, by "normalising" dealing in dodgy goods, did contribute to some degree to acceptance of knock-offs and items of dubious provenance. I was working at a place that sold VHS at the time of its peak popularity and always wondered how funny our punters would find it if we sold them bootlegs instead of their OF&H tapes, while it was seemingly OK for the Trotters to act like that.

 

While I'm at it, I'm of a similar mind about "Bread" making it seem OK to milk the welfare state. Turning up to collect your dole money in a Roller - absolutely hilarious? I don't think so.

 

You do realise that none of the programs you listed above are real.

If you did then are you saying that 90% of people who watched them were too thick to work that out for themselves? Monkey see monkey do as it were?

[CAM]

Yes - the ultimate responsibility lies with the individual, but you're being disingenuous if you're suggesting that those in the public eye are incapable of influencing public opinion/action. Did Amy Winehouse force thousands of girls to get a beehive? Would "that" haircut have ever caught on with young chaps had it not been for Beiber?

 

 

 

Yep, three hundred and fifty thousand of them (and counting).

 

Last I saw, having a particular haircut wasn't against the law nor likely to endanger other people (unless Amy Winehouse happened to keep a real swarm of bees in her beehive....)

 

But I guess ultimately we live in an age where everyone is put on trial on Twitter by baying mobs before the facts even come out and nobody wants to take responsibility for themselves. When someone is being judged purely on speculation and supposed truth from clickbait outlets (read: every media outlet under the sun) I guess social media truly is trash and a blight on this world. Even the pro-Clarkson petition is a kneejerk reaction from the RT and Like crowd.

[abillybob]

Whilst I'm lucky enough to be able to choose to live somewhere that has fibre, not everyone is so fortunate. BB everywhere by the end of next year? Dream on! (Unless some railway type definitions of broadband are utilised - e.g. 100k? Broadband!).

 

I'm just going off statements here Rural broadband - Superfast Fibre Broadband so if their calculation are right it could mean that 95% of the UK will be covered by broadband by 2017 latest. Ofcom though reckons 95% of homes in the UK already have access to broadband with speeds of a minimum 2mbps Ofcom State 95.3% of UK Can Get Standard Broadband of At Least 2Mbps - ISPreview UK don't know how true this is though mind.

[LeMarchand]

You do realise that none of the programs you listed above are real.

If you did then are you saying that 90% of people who watched them were too thick to work that out for themselves? Monkey see monkey do as it were?

 

???

 

So your contention is that people are never influenced by TV shows? From Wikipedia (but no reason to suspect it's fake):

 

Only Fools and Horses – and consequently John Sullivan – is credited with the popularisation in Britain of several words and phrases used by Del Boy regularly, particularly "Plonker",[92] meaning a fool or an idiot, and two expressions of delight or approval: "Cushty"[92] and "Lovely jubbly". The latter was borrowed from an advertising slogan for an obscure 1960s orange juice drink, called Jubbly, which was packaged in a pyramid shaped, waxed paper carton. Sullivan remembered it and thought it was an expression Del Boy would use; in 2003, the phrase was incorporated into the new Oxford English Dictionary.[93] Other British slang words commonly used and popularised in the series include "dipstick", "wally" and "twonk", all mild ways of calling someone an idiot.

 

Is it that much of a stretch to believe that, albeit subliminally, attitudes may have been influenced? Even if 1% of Bread's viewers at it's peak decided it was OK fiddle the dole, that's over 200 thousand people. It's only in the last few years that in most sections of society that such fraud has become frowned upon.

 

Last I saw, having a particular haircut wasn't against the law nor likely to endanger other people (unless Amy Winehouse happened to keep a real swarm of bees in her beehive....)

 

My point is (as above) people and programs in the public eye can and do influence the public.

Edited March 11, 2015 by LeMarchand

[mthomas08]

Right but just because it works for you, doesn't mean it will work for others. Personally I watch because of that trio, I might not watch it without them, certainly I wouldn't be bothered about it if I miss it or watch it on catch up.

 

I agree, BBC F1 is a prime example and So is Sky's Football crew.

 

I really enjoy the current trio, just like I enjoy DC/EJ and Jake - I don't how ever like Suzi but I do like Lee. Personally the only reason I enjoy the BBC F1 is DC/EJ when EJ isn't about I feel like they are missing something.

 

Getting a group of people who click well although doesn't happen over night, doesn't always work well even with time. I still can't stand Suzi I feel she is trying too hard where as Jake came across as a natural presenter which is why he moved over to BT Sport and does a good job for them. I don't always get to watch live Football but instead I get the Sky crew sitting there joking around - there is that chemistry.

 

Course that's just my opinion.

 

Replacing Clarkson is possible but how long will it take to find some one like him or has that chemistry with the other guys? as much as the previous presenters were okay they didn't match up in my book. I enjoy the less scripted feeling to a show which I certainly feel with all the above.

 

Will say this though, in the last year I have watched the BBC for 4 shows and that already drops to 3 now that I have Sky F1.

[alan-d]

Hello,

I just signed the petition, "BBC: REINSTATE JEREMY CLARKSON."

I think this is important. Will you sign it too?

Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/p/bbc-reinstate-jeremy-clarkson

Thanks,

Alan

 

[HarryMonkey]

I'm just going off statements here Rural broadband - Superfast Fibre Broadband so if their calculation are right it could mean that 95% of the UK will be covered by broadband by 2017 latest. Ofcom though reckons 95% of homes in the UK already have access to broadband with speeds of a minimum 2mbps Ofcom State 95.3% of UK Can Get Standard Broadband of At Least 2Mbps - ISPreview UK don't know how true this is though mind.

 

2meg broadband ... can you really see how that will be a success wanting to watch the FA cup final in HD along with the rest of the street/village all contending down the same pipe.

 

Why would anyone want to pay for bb, and line rental that they may not want and then have to pay for each tv program when all they have to pay for now is the licence fee?

[mthomas08]

What's the world record for most petition signatures??

 

I was watching it last night and it was on barely 30,000, now over 400,000!

 

The masses are speaking.

[LiamH]

Its all speculation right now, if no charges have been filed then the police won't get involved so its all down to the BBC HR people so sort it out.

 

When you have people like Prescott punching people and still being in government and footballers committing horrific crimes and still being in the public eye i think its all be blown out of proportion.. He does have a prior for punching someone, but when that person is Piers Morgan you cant really blame him...

 

I don't agree in resorting in physical violence without good reason, and I hope the whole prima donna story about it being over food/tea is untrue because I like him, but this is getting way more news coverage than it needs, even the pope saying he would punch someone who insulted his mother got less coverage than this.

[CAM]

???

 

So your contention is that people are never influenced by TV shows? From Wikipedia (but no reason to suspect it's fake):

 

 

 

Is it that much of a stretch to believe that, albeit subliminally, attitudes may have been influenced? Even if 1% of Bread's viewers at it's peak decided it was OK fiddle the dole, that's over 200 thousand people. It's only in the last few years that in most sections of society that such fraud has become frowned upon.

 

 

 

My point is (as above) people and programs in the public eye can and do influence the public.

 

And my point is that people have a brain and are capable of distinguishing between a fashion trend started by a celebrity and a call to break the law. Although quite frankly, when it comes to speeding, it sounds like he is pointing out the obvious and more in-tune with a typical British driver as a number of them do have the mental capacity of a peanut.

 

On Saturday I had the joy of M25 traffic and a 40 limit because the M23 slip was jammed (again). Lane 2, down to 40 as posted on the gantry, every single driver was going past me on both sides at 50-60mph ignoring it. I then meet the tailback and have to change lane just for some idiot to cut in front of everyone and stop in my lane because they wanted to barge in the front of the queue and I would have hit the back of them if it wasn't for the 40 limit.

 

British drivers are idiots regardless of celebrity influence.

[CHR1S]

???

So your contention is that people are never influenced by TV shows? From Wikipedia (but no reason to suspect it's fake):

 

Is it that much of a stretch to believe that, albeit subliminally, attitudes may have been influenced? Even if 1% of Bread's viewers at it's peak decided it was OK fiddle the dole, that's over 200 thousand people. It's only in the last few years that in most sections of society that such fraud has become frowned upon.

 

 

 

My point is (as above) people and programs in the public eye can and do influence the public.

 

No sane person is influenced by a comedy show.

I never watched bottom and ever felt the need to inflict mindless violence on a friend or relative, nor did I feel it necessary to randomly abuse a spanish waiter (or any waiter for that matter) because John Cleese told me to do so subliminally.

 

Does every program we watch now have to display a Jackass style warning?

 

"This show is not real, do not attempt to fly a green spaceship through a wormhole and then perform everything backwards for a few hours."

[HarryMonkey]

Whatever happened it wasn't that serious according to James May ...

 

BBC News - James May: Clarkson 'dust-up' not that serious