StevieM Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) How much for one of these in UK Pounds Sterling ? @mac_shinobi £30 +VAT edit: That's a USB 3.0 version There's also one with an LCD screen for £39.99 Edited October 30, 2013 by StevieM 1
bladedanny Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Got mine from quiet pc, although I'm sure I only paid about £20 for it. 1
SYNACK Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Got a linky to that type of caddy @SYNACK ? I have one of these ::: Zalman, leading the world of Quiet Computing Solutions ::: that can emulate a DVD/CD from an ISO. It's been a god send for traveling from school to school with. That's the one, the have the 300 and 400 which do usb3 and pin code locking to, ordered mine from the UK and was great till the drive decided to take the shaken and not stirred Seagate drives smart register seriously and locked it to read only. That is the other cool thing though, there is a switch that sets it to hardware read only so you can use it safely on a viruses infected machine. Surprisingly cheap for how good it is to. Just watch for the epic, usb1.1 ports on cheap motherboards that make booting off a USB DVD take half an hour blazingly quick without junk motherboards though, just feed it Isis Edit, also got mine from quietpc for less than $60 shipped to the far end of the planet. Edited October 30, 2013 by SYNACK 1
3s-gtech Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Relatedly, do you buy systems then pull the drives for externally sourced ssds often, we may have to look into that thanks to the 200+ dollar extra for ssds from reasonable brand hardware suppliers. Yup, always externally sourced. With many of our bought PCs being refurbs, we also get a small discount by not receiving a HDD at all with them. On new machines, we just pull them straight out and they go into the Box of Expensive But Useless SparesTM. 1
Arthur Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Regarding DBAN, is it an acceptable method of wiping a hard drive as far as the DPA is concerned? Unlikely, because DBAN doesn't overwrite every sector on the drive. It doesn't touch data in bad sectors and the Host Protected Area. For that reason I tend to use the drives built-in Secure Erase command via Parted Magic. FWIW, Secure Erase is recommended* by NIST in the US as a suitable media sanitization technique - one of the only ones that does not involve physical destruction. Infosec Standard 5 - which is the UK government's data destruction standard - has the following requirements and is quite similar to DoD 5220.22-M. IS5 defines two different levels of overwriting: Baseline overwriting of data involves one pass, overwriting every sector of the storage medium once with randomly-generated data. Enhanced overwriting involves three passes; each sector is overwritten first with 1s, then with 0s, and then with randomly generated 1s and 0s. Regardless of which level is used, verification is needed to ensure that overwriting was successful. (Source) * See Table A1 on page 19 1
SYNACK Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Unlikely, because DBAN doesn't overwrite every sector on the drive. It doesn't touch data in bad sectors and the Host Protected Area. For that reason I tend to use the drives built-in Secure Erase command via Parted Magic. FWIW, Secure Erase is recommended* by NIST in the US as a suitable media sanitization technique - one of the only ones that does not involve physical destruction. Infosec Standard 5 - which is the UK government's data destruction standard - has the following requirements and is quite similar to DoD 5220.22-M. * See Table A1 on page 19 Or more lazily you could just buy a What Data drive and wait for three years, from my experience they erase themselves without any help, without exception. No fancy software needed 2
Arthur Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) also got mine from Quiet PC. Me too. I have an SSD in my ZM-VE400 and computers fly through OS installs. The only two things I don't like about the enclosure are the capacitive buttons (they suck badly!) and the tiny LCD that isn't large enough to display ISOs with fairly long filenames e.g. Microsoft ISOs from TechNet/VLSC. The VE200 and VE300 also had small LCDs, so I doubt Zalman will make it bigger on the ZM-VE500. I hope they do though! Edited October 30, 2013 by Arthur
mats Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) Interesting point about dban and bad sectors - there's more info on that here. I'll try secure erase from parted magic next time round (adjusts tin foil hat). Edit - thought parted magic was foss - it's commercial. Unclear if gparted (which it's based on) does hdd secure erasing. Either way, if a dban doesn't report bad sectors, I suspect it's good enough. If it does, who wants a drive with bad sectors? It's failing. Edited October 31, 2013 by mats
buzzard Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I assume this quantity of PC's are from the Curric side of things? what data would be on there of any actual use to anyone? surely a wipe with DBAN would get rid of most of the data, meaning that the few blocks of data that might be missed is virtually meaningless, especially with what the actual data was in the first place?
Gaz Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I thought that the information in bad sectors was moved out by the OS to good areas of the HDD. Any information in a bad sector is likely to be corrupt beond usable recovery anyway, hence why its a bad sector.
john Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 As you have a lot how about 2.5" Dominoes around the place?
Danp Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 As you have a lot how about 2.5" Dominoes around the place? I am liking that idea, last day of term (11th!) when everyone goes to the carol service I will try and get one going and instagram it. The 170+ drives I have in stores are a mix of 3.5" and 2.5"
Danp Posted March 17, 2015 Author Posted March 17, 2015 Well, 14 months later I have a larger pile of drives and still have nothing planned for them!
Stone_Charli Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Well, 14 months later I have a larger pile of drives and still have nothing planned for them! We'll come and collect them if you like - we'll securely erase the data and recycle them for free!
mjs_mjs Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 If they're in need of new homes - I could use a few for my new test server (has 8 SAS/SATA bays currently empty).
Danp Posted September 16, 2015 Author Posted September 16, 2015 This is our current store of old drives, about 250 in total. The oldest date I found was 12/94, a 210mb wonder. Off to the shreader they go!
Danp Posted September 16, 2015 Author Posted September 16, 2015 We'll come and collect them if you like - we'll securely erase the data and recycle them for free! Hit me up with some more info please @Stone_Charli
mjs_mjs Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Off to the shreader they go! Such a waste
Chris_ Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Hit me up with some more info please @Stone_Charli We had a bunch of old PCs and some boxes of HDDs collected to be recycled. I'd be surprised if any of the HDDs still worked the way the collection driver tossed them in to crates!
Dos_Box Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Our lot chop them up and use them for casting: [ATTACH=CONFIG]21247[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]21248[/ATTACH] My school never did cool things like that
pete Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 My school never did cool things like that Bear in mind we're also the school that was home to a robot table (sixth form project), leafblower-powered ride-on hovercraft that could be found roaming the corridors and various other shenanigans. Our DT staff are very easy to lead astray. 2
Stone_Charli Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Hit me up with some more info please @Stone_Charli If you'd like to book a collection with us, just fill in this form: Book a Recycling Collection | Stone. We'll then arrange a convenient date for collection, come and get the kit and recycle it completely FOC, securely erasing any data. You'll also get a free asset management report and certificate of disposal. If you need any more info, PM me your email address and I can send you a copy of our IT Asset Disposal brochure 1
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