mattx Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Been asked to look at Visualizers for our whitebaords.... Last time I saw one it was about £1000, it was fantastic but we did not really need it at the time. I have now been told they are around £300 !! Is this true ? Can anyone give me some experiences of such devices. Good and bad. Thanking you in advance...
Little-Miss Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 They're defo around the £300 or less mark. Tried to order one but ran out of money . My "mother in law" has one at her school and she loves it... 1
JOrdan01070 Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 It depends on what features you are after we have a genee 6100 as it allows us to run a monitor as wel as the projector with out haveing addition spliter boxes. see link Visualiser, Document Camera Genee Vision Visualizer by Interactive Education Jordan 1
plexer Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 We got 2 this year from the tesco rm vouchers. Avervision ones I think. Ben 1
LeMarchand Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 We got 2 this year from the tesco rm vouchers. Avervision ones I think. Ben We've got one from the same source - it's one of the more basic ones. I trialled it, and it seemed fine but has since sat in the ICT store room as I can't get any of the teachers to use it. Might try using it next time they ask me to do something in a teaching staff or support learning staff meeting in the hope that its usage might be appreciated. 1
Heebeejeebee Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Our Science dept has just bought a coule of AverMedia ones for around £200. I haven't got them setup yet but the HoD saw a demo and says 'they're great' (in a Tony the tiger way ). HBJB 1
Sylv3r Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 We have a AcerVision visualiser and the Science departments thinks it is great and will probably be buying some out of their own capitation next year. Here is some uses i've collected over the years for things you can do with a visualiser in school: Use of a visualiser -To show/share 'wet' and dry art work. -To show/share 3-D artwork. -To show/share/annotate children's writing/calculations. -To show/study an historical artefact. -To show/share/capture/annotate an historical document/map. -To observe minibeasts. -To model a technique such as how to use a ruler/protractor, how to form letters, how to join two pieces of wood, how to solder a circuit board, how to thread a needle etc. -To capture texts/books to make into 'big' books in IWB software (modify or remove text in, say, ORT reading books to make rub and reveal activities, write your own text etc). Add speech bubbles/thought bubbles to characters in reading books. -Use it as a webcam and hold a video conference with it. -Use it to take snapshots/captures that you then make into an animation with 2Animate or Photostory3. -Look in detail at a leaf/bread/skin etc. -Look inside a child's mouth. -Look at a shell/fircone/flower. -Quickly display a child's individual whiteboard. -Whilst doing register, share the thing a kid has brought in to 'show' the class (swimming certificate etc). -To prepare fabulous IWB resources that incorporate 'snapshots' from children's exercise books, text books, illustrations etc. * Sharing books with the whole class - saves photocopying lots of sheets, or having to hunt down big books. * Sharing children's work - at the end of an activity - highlighting strengths and suggesting possible improvements. We do this a lot and the children really like to see their work up on the big screen. * Modelling - allows you to demonstrate close-up skills easily to the whole class. 2
YorkshireTechie Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 just got 4 (2 for high school and 2 for primary) on a 4week trial from Lamphouse, if i remember correctly were trying two different models priced at £270ish and £325 1
Sylv3r Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 just got 4 (2 for high school and 2 for primary) on a 4week trial from Lamphouse, if i remember correctly were trying two different models priced at £270ish and £325 It was lamphouse I purchased ours from. 1
Hacksawbob Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 we have a few genee visions, work really well although we had one go faulty I think we got it repaired under the warranty. used loads in science to show experiments, english and goegraphy to show kids work and pictures in books (yes, remember books!) the head can be tilted to be used as a low res camera. I would like to try a usb microscope, for about £50 would hopefuly have the same functionality without the mess of wires that you get with a visualiser has any one else had a go with these? 1
dhicks Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Been asked to look at Visualizers for our whitebaords Couldn't you just get everyone a webcam and maybe a small tripod? -- David Hicks
antoeknee Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 We've just thought about a vid cam on a tripod. Just over £100 for vid cam and then add a cheap tripod. Choose one with vid out and it should be OK. We'll be trying this with the art dept soon.
SimpleSi Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Avervision models at £250 have been available for last 12-18mnths. This years models (still £250) come with lights (needed if projector is going dim and teacher needs to dim main class lights) IMO these are a MUST HAVE in any classroom with interactive board and projector and are the first thing I suggest when a head says they've got some money to spend When they were £1000 - they were too expensive and I too jury rigged a 320x240 webcam - didn't work very well At £250 for a device that has plugs/sockets/USB connection to capture images/software to use it/zoom dial/ auto focus/freeze image/simple switch between computer/camera, etc etc - its not worth mucking about just get them - they are the proverbial canine spherical objects for teaching Even the most ICT agnostic teacher loves them regards Simon PS for anyone with older models - you can plug in a LED light module for around £60 - but maybe an anglepoise lamp at £10 might be better value 1
eean Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 TTS are brining out a Visuliser in April - 74.99! or a 6 pack for 399. Sounds rather cheep to be honest, but then it is just a camera on a stick! Specification includes: Bendy Gooseneck 5 x optical zoom 1.3MP Digital Images Video Capture Built in Light TTS - Primary Visualiser I'd be interested to try one of these. Hopefully its not another DigiBlue. 2
SimpleSi Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 That just a webcam on a stick The BIG advantage(s) of a real device is that is doesn't rely on a computer to work - they feed the projector direct. This gives you automatic teaching resource backup - most (young ones - us oldies remember slates - rock - not wireless ) here will have gone through school with teachers teaching them using OHPs so you know that it works Honest, if I was in charge of IT, I'd put one in every class in the country that's got a projector! The're the school IT equivalent of sliced bread/air-con in cars/ running water regards Simon PS did I mention how useful they are? Installed 3 last week, doing 3 next week - up to about 40% class coverage across my schools.
dhicks Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 The BIG advantage(s) of a real device is that is doesn't rely on a computer to work - they feed the projector direct. But the advantage of the webcam-ona-stick approach is that the computer can take snapshots of whatever you are pointing the camera at. -- David Hicks
SimpleSi Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 The Avervision does that as well - it is both a direct camera to projector device and a USB camera for taking pictures or recording video. And it make the tea as well And it plans lessons And it .... regards Simon PS did I mention they are good
eean Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 But the advantage of the webcam-ona-stick approach is that the computer can take snapshots of whatever you are pointing the camera at. -- David Hicks Yes, I can't really see myself ever needing to directly plug it into a projector. Otherwise it really is just an expensive OHP. We've got loads of them filling up corridors. The beauty of it is that then you can write on it etc... I know that Smart have a button that puts it directly into a notebook - although I'm assuming that's only for their own product. I wonder if there is an equivalent that will capture from the webcam really easily and put it directly into a Promethean flipchart.
flyinghaggis Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 The Avervision does that as well - it is both a direct camera to projector device and a USB camera for taking pictures or recording video. We're about to order one of the Avermedia ones for testing. Can it transfer video it's recorded accross to the PC aswell as pictures? If so what format/resolution do the recorded video files come across in?
SimpleSi Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 I'm at a school with the new ones on Thurs so I'll test it out for you regards Simon
neilenormal Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 I have seen our Genee Vision 6100 used in Art: the teacher says its the best way to show pupils how to shade/cross hatch/use a pencil/ light vs dark that she knows. She also uses it to display exemplar work to the whole class. If I said I was taking it away now she'd lynch me, and whilst not an ICT agnostic she would not describe herself as ICT confident!! I shall definitely be buying more of these Neilenormal
laserblazer Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 We've just had a demo of the Genee Vison 6100 and the teachers were wowed by it. But it's £800, do the cheaper ones have the split screen option etc.?
User3204 Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 We have some of the AverVison things... I keep referring to them as Epidiascopes.. which was the technical name for the OHP, with the bulb in its base... and it confuses the teachers. Anyway, we have found that they are good for most stuff, EXCEPT, the Art dept find that the colour changes, as it reacts to their hands. Now, apparently the Elmo New Products from ELMO USA P30S Digital Visual Presenter can cope with the colour changes, it's just a little bit more expensive, and I've never seen it for sale in the UK...
laserblazer Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 One of the features of the Genee 6100 was the split screen. Is this standard on most models?
Anglisc Posted April 23, 2010 Posted April 23, 2010 We have been testing Avervision visualisers and they are great. I would say the most useful feature for teachers are they don't even need to be thought about or worried about they just work. Easy to set up and you learn how they work in seconds.
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