krisd32 Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 Does any body use this latest version of print manager and if they do what do they think of it? i'm just trailing it at the moment but already i can see that it could save us money. also what prices do any of you estimate per black page printed and colour page printed :?: many thanks kris :toimonster:
Gatt Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 Just started using it - and already got ICT on my back about it - something to do with DiDA requiring kids to print out 40 questionnaires! Why can't they just make up 40 results? as far as i can see its only asking them to "Survey 40 people" no where does it say "print out 40..." But Head of ICT insisting they have to
mrforgetful Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 I didn't like Print Manager Plus when I had it, I use Papercut instead, which is pretty cheap.
Disease Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 We switched from pcounter to PMP and its far better. We charge £1 per page as we do not recharge departments and it's easier to work out quota's. Years 7 & 8 - - - - 4 pages per day yr 9 - - - -- 8 Pages per day yr 10 ------ 16 pages per day yr 11 ------- 32 pages per day. Cut my toner costs in half
SteveT Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 Just started using it - and already got ICT on my back about it - something to do with DiDA requiring kids to print out 40 questionnaires! 1. There is a magic machine called a photocopier!!! Wondrous technology. 2. Create the questionnaire online and have it filled in online! Why have computers and not use them? Otherwise they might as well write questionnaires by hand and photocopy!
mrforgetful Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 With PMP does it still take forever to load the user list?
Jake Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 Cant say that we have noticed any delays with any aspects of PMP. User list, printer lists, and group all load and refresh swiftly, even reports are generated speedily We have it running on a P4 2.8, 2gig ram , windows server 2003, which is running as a dedicated print server
mrforgetful Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 Ah right. Might have been the old 1Ghz Pentium with 512Mb RAM, Windows 2000 and old PMP that was the problem then lol.
Gatt Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 Just started using it - and already got ICT on my back about it - something to do with DiDA requiring kids to print out 40 questionnaires! 1. There is a magic machine called a photocopier!!! Wondrous technology. 2. Create the questionnaire online and have it filled in online! Why have computers and not use them? Otherwise they might as well write questionnaires by hand and photocopy! This is what i cant understand..
Ric_ Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 @Gatt: DiDA is a course that is designed to be done on the computer! The kids have to create an e-portfolio and don't hand in hard copies of their work! I use PMP and it's great. We actually charge the kids for what they print - giving them £2 of credit at the start of the year (sufficient for 200 pages of mono laser printing!).
Gatt Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 @Gatt: DiDA is a course that is designed to be done on the computer! The kids have to create an e-portfolio and don't hand in hard copies of their work! This was my understanding of DiDA too... but the ICT HoD is insistant they print out 40 questionnaires.. Oh well, only got till end of the school year then he's gone
Ric_ Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 This was my understanding of DiDA too... but the ICT HoD is insistant they print out 40 questionnaires.. You could always charge the ICT department for the printing
Michael Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 PMP6 is great and saves a lot of time and money. I have it installed on 2000 Server and it detects all users/groups you have in AD, so you can specify credit levels on a per user or per group basis which is handy! You can also schedule credit to be topped up or reset so users don't run out! My users credit gets reset on the first day of each month at 7am.
Gatt Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 its a lot of paper - 40 per pupil approx 30 pupils per class with 3 classes
Espada Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 @Gatt: DiDA is a course that is designed to be done on the computer! The kids have to create an e-portfolio and don't hand in hard copies of their work! This was my understanding of DiDA too... but the ICT HoD is insistant they print out 40 questionnaires.. Oh well, only got till end of the school year then he's gone They don't need to print out 40 a simple table will do, respondees along the top, questions down the side. They have to do that for the next stage anyway.
beeswax Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 Just started using it - and already got ICT on my back about it - something to do with DiDA requiring kids to print out 40 questionnaires! Why can't they just make up 40 results? as far as i can see its only asking them to "Survey 40 people" no where does it say "print out 40..." But Head of ICT insisting they have to you can create a questionnaire in Moodle
beeswax Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 This was my understanding of DiDA too... but the ICT HoD is insistant they print out 40 questionnaires.. Oh well, only got till end of the school year then he's gone he can waste paper at an Olympic level
Gatt Posted July 8, 2006 Posted July 8, 2006 This was my understanding of DiDA too... but the ICT HoD is insistant they print out 40 questionnaires.. Oh well, only got till end of the school year then he's gone he can waste paper at an Olympic level Lol - yeah last count on PMP6 for number of pages printed from his printer - 467 - by him - ~200!!
Teth Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 Use PMP here too I think its great. Used PCcounter in my old place and had alot of counting errors and printing getting canceled fr no good reason. PMP seems to co-operate with alot more different printer drivers. On another not currently we're run a system of 10 pages per week and no printing in colour unles you ask your teacher and they ask me to unpause the colour printer. Do you think it will work with secondary level to charge higher prices for colour and mark it on the printers and give them say 40 credits a month mono costing 1 credit colour costing say 4 credits? Will they think about what printer they send they're print job to or am I better staying with the currnt system ? My head of ICT said try it if you think it will work so you can guess what he thinks
Cars10 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 I didn't like Print Manager Plus when I had it, I use Papercut instead, which is pretty cheap. Could you perhaps specify what you didn´t like about PMP? And which version were you using? I am looking at PMP, PaperCut and Pcounter, and I´m trying to decide which one to buy ... (Yes, I do realize this thred is bit old, but I´m hpoing you´re still following it :-))
kestrel1 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 I have used PMP, but found that it was unreliable. This is on a thin client network, via Citrix. Got onto the manufacturer & they are aware of the problem, but never came back with a solution. This may have been sorted now, but I have moved on to pcounter. This isn't as nice, because all actions are on a per printer basis. With PMP you could have action on a per user basis, much nicer. The staff moan about it, but I just say it's one of those things. They don't argue about it. At least pcounter works over a Citrix environment. Not tried Papercut myself.
Ric_ Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 I used PMP on Citrix for two years without a problem (that I am aware of at any rate). I have since moved to PyKota which is a lot more flexible and open source so has saved a considerable amount of cash.
kestrel1 Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 I can't remember what the problem was with PMP now, as it was probably over two years ago. Old age or something, lol. Thanks for the tip on PyKota, I will have a look.
Ric_ Posted August 27, 2007 Posted August 27, 2007 I can't remember what the problem was with PMP now, as it was probably over two years ago. Old age or something, lol. Thanks for the tip on PyKota, I will have a look. http://edugeekwiki.rm-charlton.net/index.php/CUPS_and_PyKota might help
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