marvin Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Hi Just wondering if primary schools have network manager? Anyone out there working full time in a primary school? Do you think more permanent IT staff will be allocated to primary schools? Thanks
sparkeh Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Yep me! Although a group of schools clubbed together to employ me. I would expect more primary schools to start doing this as ICT demands increase. We could already do with more people.
marvin Posted October 24, 2008 Author Posted October 24, 2008 Hi Which school do you cover then? You in the city or leicestershire? how many schools do you cover and how do you allocate your time to them? Are you employed by the school or you work for yourself?
elsiegee40 Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Round here, the primaries tend to club together to share a NM. However the independents, employ their own... full time in the bigger prep schools.
sparkeh Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I cover the three primaries in Braunstone Town (county). I am employed by the schools and split my time equally between the three. Where in Leics are you?
marvin Posted October 24, 2008 Author Posted October 24, 2008 I am in leicester city, employed by the school itself! If you don't mind me asking what is the pay band where you are? Do you find you get paid more in leicester city than leicestershire? Or is it the same?
witch Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Round here, most primary or middle schools have their own techie - a sore point at the moment as research shows that they vary from full-time down to 20 hours a week - except of course me on a measly 10 hours. Most schools get help if required from the high school in the pyramid
Little-Miss Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I'm a network manager at one primary school, they got me all to themselves. I'm pro rata though...
marvin Posted October 24, 2008 Author Posted October 24, 2008 If you are pro rota what is your percentage worked out on a full time salary? I am on 87% of a full time salary, grade 9 i think. What are you on?
pooley Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I'm a full time NM shared between 2 primary schools
ScottStevinson Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I'm an NM for one junior school in Gosport - ~270 pupils, ~100 PCs and 6 servers. Part time 10 hours/week term time, extra in holidays.
leco Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 As the word "Manager" would mean that I should be on a higher pay scale I am not called that, in fact all the manage words were taken out of my job description. However, that is what I do in one Primary School, 29 hours a week, term time only (though I also work some weeks in summer for which I claim).
Little-Miss Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 As the word "Manager" would mean that I should be on a higher pay scale I am not called that, in fact all the manage words were taken out of my job description. However, that is what I do in one Primary School, 29 hours a week, term time only (though I also work some weeks in summer for which I claim). It's quite interesting you say that. I'm sure my job title on my contract says Network Manager/IT Technician (wanna double check now). But i dont consider myself to be on NM wage, even if i was full time. Wondering what single status is going to say about that....
leco Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 But I don't consider myself to be on NM wage, even if I was full time. Wondering what single status is going to say about that.... Not a lot I don't suppose, any excuse to pay us even less - after all we are not teachers.
speckytecky Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Some very useful and interesting replies here. My main employment is 35 HPW term time at a Primary where my pay statement has me as a Teaching Assistant / Special. I'm always referred to as the ICT Technician though and the work I'm actually doing is more akin to what I'd believe a network manager doing. I'm also employed term time on a 2 HPW contract with scope for overtime at a Secondary level special school - that pay statement has me graded as a Technician. Both schools have plenty of scope and seem to need holiday time extra hours. The later school has a lot more kit and I suppose what I need to sort out is a proper shared contract at a realistic rate between the two schools. I'd be very interested to hear how the others here on shared contracts have this arranged?
SimpleSi Posted October 25, 2008 Posted October 25, 2008 One of my (7) schools pays my wages and then charges the other schools at an appropriate rate (inc overheads such as travelling and minor expenses). If I do any extra work in any of the schools, I just claim overtime directly from that school (All schools in same LA so its just one standard overtime claim form that needs filling in). This saves the schools all having to set up 7 separate contracts. They used to take turns in who actually paid me but now one school does it every year. regards Simon PS Dreaming of a primary that could afford to have a full time IT person 1
Pete10141748 Posted October 26, 2008 Posted October 26, 2008 I'm employed by our town's LEA, and placed in a single Primary School as a term-time only (37.5 hours per week) + 5 days outside of term "ICT Manager" which is essentially the same as an NM just a different title.
Maximus Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 There are a lot of schools near me that buy in their NM / Technician and to be honest I don't see them going down the route of getting their own. Some of the HT's see IT as some kind of Demon that eats up their budget that, as far as they are concerned should be used for teaching resources.
seanmh Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 I'm a full-time network manager in a large(ish) primary school. Worked for over 9 years before that in large secondary schools and haven't really missed it to tell the truth. The network I have here is quite large and would be simply unmanagable if there was no-one to oversee its operation (namely me). Get involved in loads of other stuff as well (security systems, business procedures for the school, Health and safety etc), so sort of a ICT/Business Manager. Lots of primaries around me also have Network Managers altough some of teir jobs aren't as invloved as mine. Think that this will become the norm in more and more primary schools, as, as the demand for technology increases so there will be more need for support and management.
SimpleSi Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 I'm a full-time network manager in a large(ish) primary school. What do you call large? 60 pupil entry? or more? regards Simon
seanmh Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 What do you call large? 60 pupil entry? or more? regards Simon Nearly 500 pupils. Not as large as the last secondary I worked at 2,500 pupils, but then I had a team, here I'm on my own but still loads to keep me interested!
sparkeh Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 600 pupils in my largest primary. That seems large.
christhack Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 I am a Network Manager at a Private Prep School (280 pupils) I work full time and the pay is pretty decent to be honest. It is a great job and I couldn't be happier
witch Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 There are nearly 500 pupils at the middle school (years 5-8)where I do 10 hours a week - I think I will call myself NM even though I am 'officially' an IT tech, as it is just me anyway! I also do 10 hours a week at a first school (reception - 4) which has over 300 pupils. Obviously on such restricted hours I don't get to do anything other than the basic tech stuff and cannot get involved with anything else, or even do the stuff I would like to do, which is a pity. I am employed separately by each school but as they are both in the same LEA I get one payslip with the two amounts listed on it.
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