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Oh...I will have a look later on if I get time. It's 2 mins away from my house. Anyone used lure module? I have one and plan to use it when my son and wife can both play as the Pokestop is across from my house too.

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Oh...I will have a look later on if I get time. It's 2 mins away from my house. Anyone used lure module? I have one and plan to use it when my son and wife can both play as the Pokestop is across from my house too.

 

Used one in the park last night (how chavvy does that sound?) and within 10 minutes, 11 other people had descended around it. Most seemed fairly happy to chat.

Lost a Slowbro fom my game crashing on capture, though :(

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Yeah, I had a lot of game crashing last night. (especially when catching pokemons)

 

Annoying none of the pokestops near me have anywhere particularly suitable to sit. Going out tonight for an hour or too though, and two of us have lures to use. Shall see what happens.

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Link: You might see some things you'd rather not while playing Pokemon Go [Daily Mail]

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/14/05/3641D50000000578-3689306-A_park_is_completely_consumed_by_spider_webs_in_Yinnar_depicting-a-38_1468472155042.jpg

 

...Leslie Schmidt was playing Pokemon Go with her partner Bryce when she stumbled upon the eerie spectacle.

 

‘We were trying to catch a meowph (one of the creatures in the game) when we suddenly found ourselves surrounded by this enormous web. We were dumbfounded – it was like Christmas meets Halloween!’..

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[h=1]Good news![/h]Pokemon Go is available in your country!

Download it now!

Good luck catching 'em all!

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Yesterday afternoon some guys had a lures up next to our local library. It's a perfect spot as there are benches, free WiFi and and 4 pokestop's in range. Caught a ton of pokemon and got chatting to the guys that were already there. Lures definitely seem the way to go for catching a lot of stuff (there was a continuous stream of pokemon for the whole time the lure was working).
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hmm is it wrong that i thought of this when i got the email lol

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Not at all, I thought that was mandatory that you read it in Professor Farnsworth's voice. :)

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I'm mid-tutorial but can't go anywhere at the moment.

 

Also, NSPCC raising concerns at a total lack of basic safeguarding features. I think they are pushing for the CEOP red button in the app (which I'm surprised isn't there). https://www.nspcc.org.uk/fighting-for-childhood/news-opinion/pokemon-go/

 

I'd think twice before setting off a lure at your school!

why would there by a red button its not social networking its just a geo caching app common sense from parents should be all thats required imo any danger posed is real world not part of the app. You cant (and in my opinion shouldnt) hide kids from the real world or they wont cope when they find it

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^^

 

you assume that parents have common sense ;)

 

You also assume that children tell their parents everything and never get murdered by a stranger after they tell a 'white lie' about being at a friends.

 

Build safety in is surely better than having to do it retrospectivly?

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why would there by a red button its not social networking its just a geo caching app common sense from parents should be all thats required imo any danger posed is real world not part of the app. You cant (and in my opinion shouldnt) hide kids from the real world or they wont cope when they find it

 

This I agree with. Yes, this app might mean that somebody could 'zero in' on kids by either A) Using a Lure to bring people to them, or B) waiting at Pokestops/Gyms until kids show up. But let's be reasonable: is it really that difficult to find kids these days? Just head to your nearest park, town centre, school or other such location. Kids really aren't that hard to track down, and Pokemon GO won't make it any easier. Plus, in my experience, if you drop a lure, you get a lot of adults showing up too, this game isn't just for kids. So I think it's a little scaremongery to try and push safety like they're doing. About the only increased risk it holds is an "in", as it gives you a topic to discuss "You guys playing Pokemon GO?"

 

in one instance it is reported that armed robbers lured teenagers to a particular spot using your game

Yes, but that's not the game's fault. Granted the situation is unfortunate, but whenever you're out and about you should be maintaining some level of vigilance and common sense.

 

in another that players are taken to a sex shop.

I'm going to hazard guesses here, as I don't know the full details, but I'd guess A) The pokestop wasn't the shop itself, but something close by (don't forget, they're copies of portals) like a statue, B) the sex shop isn't obviously a sex shop (It's probably called PRIVATE SHOP or similar as is often the case) and C) They didn't have to enter the shop to play the game.

 

Annoyingly, the "Open letter" suggests nothing at all. Just "see our guide". If you're not able to offer a suggestion, keep hushed.

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Basic safeguarding 101:

 

- Parents no longer have control over their kids' Internet access. You can set up a filtered and monitored Internet at home and at school, but they have unrestricted access via mobile phones, games consoles, etc.

- The game encourages players to physically congregate in one place with strangers and holding an expensive piece of equipment in their hands. Adults are already advised to be cautious. Kids are already targets for theft on their way to/from school for cash/phones and the app is encouraging them to come to one place with their phones out.

- Kids can meet adults who also play the game and have something common to talk about. Whilst this isn't exactly a bad thing, there are people out there who will use this as an excuse to "come take a look at my Pokémon, my cartridge is at home." CEOP button is there to report such attempts.

- Ultimately, education is the ultimate weapon in the safeguarding arsenal.

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^^

 

you assume that parents have common sense ;)

 

You also assume that children tell their parents everything and never get murdered by a stranger after they tell a 'white lie' about being at a friends.

 

Build safety in is surely better than having to do it retrospectivly?

 

no but you cant hide people from their own stupidity (the same as having caution hot on coffee is dumb if you are too stupid to work that out you shouldnt be drinking coffee or be let out of the house without supervision)

tbh i dont think its aimed at kids and with just gen 1 pokemon in there i suspect its aimed at 20-30+ people on a nostalga trip and my social media reflects that (granted i dont follow any kids but all the vids etc ive seen have been people old enough to look after themselves

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Basic safeguarding 101:

 

- Parents no longer have control over their kids' Internet access. You can set up a filtered and monitored Internet at home and at school, but they have unrestricted access via mobile phones, games consoles, etc.

Exactly. So education about personal safety, and some common sense, is appropriate here.

- The game encourages players to physically congregate in one place with strangers and holding an expensive piece of equipment in their hands. Adults are already advised to be cautious. Kids are already targets for theft on their way to/from school for cash/phones and the app is encouraging them to come to one place with their phones out.

Again, personal safety and common sense. Somebody might just as easily nick your phone as you're using it to call somebody, or send a text. As the frequency of use increases, so should the amount you keep an eye on your surroundings, something the app warns you about every time you launch it.

- Kids can meet adults who also play the game and have something common to talk about. Whilst this isn't exactly a bad thing, there are people out there who will use this as an excuse to "come take a look at my Pokémon, my cartridge is at home." CEOP button is there to report such attempts.

This is true, but ultimately pointless. Anybody wanting to use Pokemon GO for grooming reasons will be using burner phones, throwaway accounts and over-the-counter sim cards. Plus, there's no in-game chat and you can't see anyone else's username very easily. Again, educate your kids about grooming and how friendly requests might have an ulterior motive behind them. Teach them personal safety.

- Ultimately, education is the ultimate weapon in the safeguarding arsenal.

Agreed. But none of this is the responsibility of the Pokemon Company, Niantic, Google, Nintendo, or anybody else involved in the app.

 

I'm not against adding some safety precautions, but they need to be sensible in order to be effective.

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Yeah I cant see that it is an issue. Criminals that are using the lures are just providing an extra way for them to be caught out. Sure by using a lure in the game you are guaranteeing that the person you are about to rob has a smart device, but who doesn't walk around with a smart device now, it would have been a lot less hassle to just walk through a random area with their pocket pistols and demand wallet/keys/smart device from randoms. Unless they specifically want devices that have Pokemon on them its stupid.

 

Just heard on the radio that its out in England so updated the app with my actual login! Got the day off tomorrow, so with the company of my little girl I shall be out and about the town catching me some pokemon! Hoping that my friends that was a little bit behind will now have it downloaded so we can take our kids out together haha. Purposely haven't joined a team yet so I can join whatever they sign up with.

 

I also bumped into my first pokemon gang last night too , about 10-12 kids (well they was about 14 years old, so teens I guess) all on push bikes with their phones out, kept stopping every 500 yards and all getting their phones back out lol. Was concerned they would want to steal (my low level and unrare) pokemon.

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I really don't see why it is the software developers responsibility to take the role of a parent? I also don't see exactly how the app is supposed to put any "safeguarding" features in.

 

I'm a parent, my 11 year old has this app. He is only allowed to use it when me or his mum is out with him and the first time we went out with it we had a long discussion about why its a bad idea to wonder around with your full attention focused on your phone screen (traffic safety, stranger danger, etc, etc).

 

On the flip side "children being brought into contact with adults they don't know" it is also teaching my kids that not every stranger is a perv/murderer/mugger and we have had some fun interactions with other people out playing the game. Some people might think that is putting my kids at risk but they know better than to get into conversations with strangers when me or mum are not about (doesn't really apply to my 19 year old anymore :) ) and they also know what is acceptable conversation (chatting about game, etc) and what isn't (asking where they live, personal information ,etc).

 

IMO it is much better to teach them how to safely interact with people they don't know then it is to shield them away from the world until they are 18 and then throw them in at the deep end and expect them to know what to do. Its kind of sad that a lot of people are so intent on shielding children from potential harm and in doing so remove a lot of normal human interactions and life skills from their growing up.

 

Most pokestops seem to be in pretty populated area's (at least locally) and if they are in a "rough" area then it is a parent s responsibility to make sure that their child is not going there anyway.

 

I honestly think parents should take a lot more responsibility for their children. It annoys me when some parent gets upperty because little Timmy has played a game or watched something online that he shouldn't have. It's not the fault of the person or company providing the questionable content its the fault of the parent for not supervising/teaching their child properly.

 

I don't buy into the whole "some parents don't understand technology and don't know how to set up filtering/logging". There are plenty of resources out there to learn about the risks and if a parent can afford to give a child a device with unsupervised access to whatever content they want then they can afford to consult with someone about securing it as well. Honesty a lot of it is just basic parenting anyway. You don't need to be an IT engineer to be able to explain to your kids that they shouldn't be giving out personal details, speak to strangers without supervision or take part in activities that are not appropriate.

 

Anyway rant over :) Also while this is my opinion I in no way would tell another parent they are doing it wrong if they disagreed with me.

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Yeah, I had a lot of game crashing last night. (especially when catching pokemons)

 

I gave up yesterday around 6pm, almost every Pokemon battle crashed it. Has been perfect today though, 4 of us from work went on a walk at lunch to battle gyms, visit stops and capture Pokemon. Got a Staru! :)

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