nicholab Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I am discusted to find that Sainsbury is not shutting down for four days over Christmas. This year they are opening on Boxing day and they have also stopped staff taking holiday. I found this out having a general chat with a member of staff whilst waiting for my wife. I hope this message reaches the top people and share holders. Still not too late to close if you could be bothered to show some generosity to your works. This also goes to any other supermarketa opening.
DalekSec Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Like I said on another post, when I worked in Tesco over the holiday period the only 2 days I had off were Christmas Day and New Years Day
elsiegee40 Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 It depends on the store as to whether or not they're open. Only some are - usually the smaller ones. Ours is closed on Christmas Day. Daughter worked for Sainsbury's and shifts are worked out well in advance, but sickness etc can muck it up. The majority of Boxing Day staff (open Sunday hours) were students wanting to earn as much cash as possible. Permanent staff mostly had the day off.
CyberNerd Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I for one am glad they will be open on boxing day. I'll probably run out of beer by then. Thanks for the headsup. 2
elsiegee40 Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I do wonder how many people outraged by opening hours back this up by refusing to shop on such days. It's not just supermarkets that are open. Lots of shops and services are too. People don't boycott them on any day
Localtechie Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I worked in Sainsburys and was told no holiday at all from December till mid January unless exceptional circumstances, just part and parcel of working in retail. Use to absolutely hate Christmas as a result!
HarryMonkey Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I don't know that Boxing Day is any different to any other Bank Holiday and no-one complains about them opening then. 1
mole Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I would be disgusted if they were shut for four days over xmas. 1
halbaradkenafin Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I don't know that Boxing Day is any different to any other Bank Holiday and no-one complains about them opening then. Seconding this, it's just a normal bank holiday which is only made special by being the day after Christmas. There isn't these sorts of comments made about easter Monday despite being a similar day.
Localtechie Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Seconding this, it's just a normal bank holiday which is only made special by being the day after Christmas. There isn't these sorts of comments made about easter Monday despite being a similar day. I've worked easter Sunday before as that is only a normal bank holiday as well. Also was one of the busiest days of the year so that's why there open!
HarryMonkey Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I've worked easter Sunday before as that is only a normal bank holiday as well. Also was one of the busiest days of the year so that's why there open! Retail outlets (over 280 sq m) are not permitted to open on Easter Sunday.
Localtechie Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Retail outlets (over 280 sq m) are not permitted to open on Easter Sunday. Was a Sainsburys Local which is why they were open.
Sagima Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Just about everywhere is open boxing day isn't it? (and I've been thankful a nearby shop has been open christmas day on occasion as well)
sidewinder Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Thought supermarkets had been open on boxing day for many years now, I'd be a bit surprised if one was closed Also 4 days would be lunacy. I do feel for staff working in retail at Christmas but at the same time people do need to buy food! As someone living in a city with no car, day to day shopping is the norm, it's not possible to stock up for more than a few days (that said I'll be at my parents so I wouldnt need to anyway!) Edited December 22, 2015 by sidewinder
LiamHaith Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I think it's important to remember that not everyone in the country (or any country) celebrates Christmas. I know for one that a good amount of our local shops are open all day Christmas because to them it's just a normal day. However they will be shut for their festivities based on what religious beliefs, followings or commitments they have.
ZeroHour Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Retail outlets (over 280 sq m) are not permitted to open on Easter Sunday. Scotland doesn't have Sunday Trading hours (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Trading_Act_1994) so our stores are open 24/7 usually. I really don't understand why Sunday Trading Laws still exist in England to be honest. I do quite a bit of shopping on Sundays and I love the freedom to go to Asda etc whenever we need. Staff can't be forced to work Sundays but those that do get time and a half (same as if you work bank/public holidays) when I worked for Safeway as a kid and it was usually a very stress-free shift for extra pay. If there was no demand or business on Boxing Day the stores wouldn't open but as long as there is I don't see a problem with it really. I know its a nice day to have off but you do usually get time and a half or double time although I would hope they would be flexible enough not to force staff to do it if they really didn't want too but it sounds like your local Sainsbury's arent sadly. Edited December 22, 2015 by ZeroHour
twin--turbo Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I wish we could abolish sunday trading laws. I don't see why shops have to shut, plenty of people are happy to work christmas. And generaly will get paid better if they do. I did a couple of christmas days working in I.T. to do DataProcessing routines from Christmas eve and to prepare for Boxing Day. For a large UK Clothing Retailer. Although I was a little annoyed that my lunchtime "relife" staff member did not turn up as he had had a skinfull by lunchtime.. TT
CyberNerd Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 One of the better arguments about keeping Sunday trading laws is that they only affect large stores, so smaller family run businesses can compete more easily. @ZeroHour - how did that work in Scotland? Do you think it is a valid reason?
ZeroHour Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) One of the better arguments about keeping Sunday trading laws is that they only affect large stores, so smaller family run businesses can compete more easily. @ZeroHour - how did that work in Scotland? Do you think it is a valid reason? In all honesty it was removed before I was really aware it existed so its hard for me to say about before/after as Shetland shops always had more limited hours anyway due to limited people living there but there are still lots of newsagents etc scattered around near me and I do think generally a lot (my folks for example) who buy Sunday papers go to the smaller shops for bits and pieces regardless as they are usually closer and quicker than going to a big store. Big stores still get a bit of footfall when I was working in one in Shetland but it was quiet compared to any other day of the week. Big stores can still be open in England but the limited hours I would imagine would mean its busier during that period. A nice perk though is you can buy fuel from the supermarkets at any time and get the cheaper prices rather than having to pay Shell garage rates which only occurred to me after a taxi driver friend from Newcastle was in Edinburgh a few weeks ago. We also get home delivery Tesco with lots of time slots available on Sunday which is useful as well. I think some smaller shops (aka next door to a supermarket) would suffer but I would be surprised to see a huge drop for them if they opened up the times. Those stores may also pay their staff less than the big supermarkets for the same labour as well. I do think though you shouldn't be able to force anyone to work on a Sunday if they don't want to, we now have that in law as well after Argos sacked some staff for that reason ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Working_(Scotland)_Act_2003 ) but it was an unwritten rule before that law and most business's wouldn't have forced you to work. I really dont see many negatives to it and it only allows people to go to the supermarket when you want/need to rather than waiting till the Monday or missing the store just before closing. If you only want a pint of milk your still probably going to go to the corner shop anyway but if you have had a disaster with the Sunday Tea or the kids need a new shirt for school on Monday you can go and get what you need where there is a bigger selection anyway. On a side note a corner shop in Shetland is open both Christmas day and New Years day for 6 hours or so if I recall and I know quite a few who have used it for stuff on the day as well. It used to be only open for a couple of hours but they have increased the hours due to demand. Edited December 22, 2015 by ZeroHour 1
hardtailstar Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Im am glad shops are open boxing day, I go away with friends hill walking on the 27th, we always buy food on the 26th for the few days we are away. I suppose we could buy stuff on the way up but it is much easier to buy the day before and transport it.
twin--turbo Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 One of the better arguments about keeping Sunday trading laws is that they only affect large stores, so smaller family run businesses can compete more easily. @ZeroHour - how did that work in Scotland? Do you think it is a valid reason? Not convinced it would make much difference. For myself and a good proportion of the UK we work a standard working week Monday to Friday. We then have 1 and a half days to visit a shop . My organisation is a Financial Service Provider, traditionaly in our sector 15 years ago it was a 9-4 Monday to Friday Operation for customers. We now have normal opening 6 days 9-5, with customer services telco open 8-8M-F and 10-4 Sat and Sun. There are rumours of Sunday opening in the future as that's what modern life demands. We are closed On Christmas Day and Bank Holiday monday. But Staff are still doing work behind the sceens and Indeed I am on call. TT
FN-GM Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 For many people its just another day. Plus it can have a massive finical impact for people who are out of work for 4 days. People who work for Sainsbury know this happens when they take the job. To put it very blunt if they don't like it they can go somewhere else.
twin--turbo Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Motor Vehicle related trades should shift their work days too Garages do half days saturday and close sunday which fits badly with the availability of the populus to visit them. The motor factors that supply them should follow suit. TT
Edu-IT Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Don't forget the 5am Next sale on Boxing Day.
nicholab Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 I can't believe people are so selfish about other people having time off. If you have kids when are you supposed to see them and have quality time with them?
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