Teachers get 2.45% pay rise

[MK-2]

Teachers in England and Wales will get pay rises above the 2% set by Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

 

The three-year pay deal will mean increases of 2.45% in September 2008 and 2.3% in each of the following two years, says Schools Secretary Ed Balls.

 

Describing teachers as the "backbone of our education system", Mr Balls said that the pay award was "fair and affordable for schools".

 

 

Nurses are also being restricted to a 1.9% rise.

 

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7188649.stm

 

 

 

Well, I've pulled the pin......fire in the hole!!

[Joanne]

they're gonna strike arenn;t they? It was on radio 2... if they got less than 4% or something... unison have sent me a voting slip on the shall we shan't we strike thing... i dunno if the pay rise is good enough.,... meh.

[Guest Guest]

So they bloody should get a pay rise, just like the rest of us should. The govt. are spitting out their usual BS of "interest rates are stuck at 2%" when in reality any sane person knows they are far far higher than that, and have been for a good while now. Year on year we are effectively taking a paycut.

 

Im envious of this news as ive got my JE back saying im earning too much already, but i cant say them getting a payrise inline with inflation is wrong.

[Sirbendy]

IT staff get a payrise? That happens?

 

Here's to a strike - we've had 2 now, every time the management changes. Creases me up..do I care who management is? Not really, no.

 

We had one staff member disciplined for inciting the kids to abandon school as well.

[localzuk]

You can pretty much guarantee a strike. Combine this with the change in structure in teaching over the previous years, many teachers have ended up with a pay cut.

 

But I doubt the government will budge much on it.

 

Why do they insist that pay increases have to be 2% maximum? The RPI is around 4.5% is it not? Why do they insist on using the CPI for pay increase calculations? All that will happen is that we will enter a period of increased industrial action and unrest.

[tech_guy]

It's time to man the barricades and burn cars in the streets.....that's what the French do.

[MK-2]

It's time to man the barricades and burn cars in the streets

 

Oh, so you've been to Nottingham then?

[rush_tech]

Oh, so you've been to Nottingham then?

 

they don't need an excuse to do it:D

[broc]

I saw an interview on BBC News yesterday, Unison have lodged a 6% pay claim for 2008, on the basis that we have been paid below inflation increases for several years and have some catching up to do.

 

The recent backdated award of 2.475% for 2007 was accepted reluctantly despite a very narrow margin in favour of strike action on the understanding that the unions would be seeking to restore earning levels in 2008.....

[K.C.Leblanc]

They might not be the only ones. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7187869.stm

 

We can wish anyway.

[Guest Guest]

It's time to man the barricades and burn cars in the streets.....that's what the French do.

 

As much as we english knock the french, they know what they want and arnt affraid to go out and get it.

[CyberNerd]

outlines the basic salary scales for all teachers from September 2007.

 

England and Wales

(excluding London and fringes) Inner London Outer London London fringes

Leadership group

Max (headteachers) £98,022 £104,628 £100,794 £98,991

Min (headteachers) £39,525 £46,134 £42,297 £40,491

Min £34,938 £41,541 £37,710 £35,901

 

Advanced skills teachers

Max £53,115 £59,724 £55,890 £54,081

Min £34,938 £41,541 £37,710 £35,901

 

Upper pay scale

Max £34,281 £41,004 £37,164 £35,250

Min £31,878 £37,809 £34,650 £32,847

 

Main pay scale

Max £29,427 £33,936 £32,751 £30,393

Min £20,133 £24,168 £23,118 £21,102

 

Unqualified teachers

Max £23,331 £27,129 £26,106 £24,297

Min £14,751 £18,552 £17,523 £15,720

 

Teaching and learning responsibility payments TLR 1 max £11,557

TLR 1 min £6,829

TLR 2 max £5,778

TLR 2 min £2,364

Special needs allowances Level 2 £3,687

Level 1 £1,866

 

http://www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit/lifeasateacher/payandbenefits/salaryscales.aspx

 

so hard done by...

[mattx]

I wish I could go on strike.... knowing me though I would still come in and do something 'cos I can get in the rooms !!

[Joanne]

turning the servers off during the unison stike would be good,, meh heheheheh

[gaz350]

turning the servers off during the unison stike would be good,, meh heheheheh

 

i hate turning things off if they've been running 24/7 for alooooong time, never know if they are going to turn back on in the a working condition

[Sirbendy]

but that's part of the fun...the adrenaline rush, the damp palms, the palpitations..heh..

[torledo]

As much as we english knock the french, they know what they want and arnt affraid to go out and get it.

 

I think the difference is that the french public generally support strike movements even when it causes disruption....

 

In this country when that happens first the newspapers go nuts and then the public turn on the strikers/demonstrators telling them they should just get on with their job. And then the government threatens legislation to prevent certain groups from striking, remeber the firefighters.

 

From what I recall the petrol strike of 2005 saw people turning against the action enabling the government to do nothing.

 

When will we learn, a little bit of solidarity in certain instances can actually influence change. And we're all the better for it in the long run.

[Guest Guest]

I think the difference is that the french public generally support strike movements even when it causes disruption....

 

In this country when that happens first the newspapers go nuts and then the public turn on the strikers/demonstrators telling them they should just get on with their job. And then the government threatens legislation to prevent certain groups from striking, remeber the firefighters.

 

From what I recall the petrol strike of 2005 saw people turning against the action enabling the government to do nothing.

 

When will we learn, a little bit of solidarity in certain instances can actually influence change. And we're all the better for it in the long run.

 

I agree. Ive always said thats our problem, we as a people find it really difficult to stick together.

[TechMonkey]

I think most of the time it is a mentatlity of "It doesn't affect us, you striking does so stop it". When Unison went on strike last time most comments were along the lines of "If you don't like the job change it & stop whining" Or "Try it out in the real world, we don't have unions" etc etc. Solidarity doesn't come into it, just a complete lack of regard for others.

[torledo]

I think most of the time it is a mentatlity of "It doesn't affect us, you striking does so stop it". When Unison went on strike last time most comments were along the lines of "If you don't like the job change it & stop whining" Or "Try it out in the real world, we don't have unions" etc etc. Solidarity doesn't come into it, just a complete lack of regard for others.

 

All that striking and yet their trains still run on time .....

 

and their standard of living is much greater than our own, despite the fact their economy is experiencing a slowdown. France isn't perfect - they have a hard time of dealing with the immigration issue and there's a great deal of inner city unrest but in cosmo france and out in the sticks the french are desperate to preserve their way of life, so the government support their farmers even if it means butting heads with the euro bloc countries and the government spend billions on public infrastructure and actually see a return through improved service.

 

Our government have failed miserably in those two key areas becuase as a nation we don't enforce sufficent checks and balances on them.

[Oops_my_bad]

France isn't perfect - they have a hard time of dealing with the immigration issue

 

By shoving their issues on the next ferry to Dover? Yep hard times alright

[webman]

I don't feel sorry for teachers, if anything I think they should get a pay cut. They're highly overpaid compared to professionals in our circle.

[john]

Must admit I agree with webman, they are well paid and the rest of school staff are forgotten about.

[apoth0r]

They might not be the only ones. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7187869.stm

 

We can wish anyway.

 

 

I briefly worked in the housing offices of a certain unnamed council and to be perfectly honest, the job is shit, the wage is shit, and you don't need a single brain cell to do it.

[torledo]

Must admit I agree with webman, they are well paid and the rest of school staff are forgotten about.

 

Don't forget the unrivalled levels of job security, full salary pensions and excellent career progression opportunities.

 

I keep hearing those in teaching banging on about the stresses of being a head or deputy head...but i'm sorry for salaries of upward of 55K into the 70K region they don't do an awful lot compared to positions of similar salary in industry such as a senior sales manager or at the top end finance directors of a mid-size org - the pressures are on an entirely different level.

 

In my mind headteachers in general on 70K occupy the same position as moneybags gp's i.e over-rated, over payed and over 'ere.

Edited January 15, 2008 by torledo