Ditto Posted March 7, 2021 Posted March 7, 2021 Which version? The EU one with an orchestral score or the US one with the Tangerine Dream score? The former is better, but I might feel that way as it's the first version I saw (and loved)? The orchestral one. Clearly a very well made movie and I could appreciate the artistry and it shows its had a pretty big budget, but it just didn't resonate with me. I think I'm just not in to elves, goblins, unicorns and the like. Similar I guess to my feelings to Lord of the Rings - I enjoyed it, but it didn't have the impact om me as it clearly has to so many others. I guess that's why I'd align to @witch views rather than @mavhc based on recent earlier discussion in this thread!
mavhc Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 Legend: 6.5/10 IMDb 38% Rotten Tomatoes 30% Metacritic The system works yet again!
LeMarchand Posted March 8, 2021 Author Posted March 8, 2021 Legend: 6.5/10 IMDb 38% Rotten Tomatoes 30% Metacritic The system works yet again! The system fails those who can think for themselves again! If I'd rated this when I left the cinema, it probably would've got a 9. Have both the originally released DVD and the multiple cut version, and still have "My True Love's Eyes" on my Spotify list.
sonofsanta Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 Greenland with Gerard Butler and Morena Baccarin (Amazon Prime). If I tell you that it's Gerard Butler running round trying to save his family from an impending meteorite, you'll immediately get an idea of what this film is that is, astonishingly, entirely wrong (certainly I did). It's actually a fraught, tense disaster movie without ridiculous feats of superhuman ridiculousness, and is pretty stressful to watch at certain points because stuff goes really wrong and you're sat there thinking how in the hell you'd handle it. Surprisingly good movie, not at all the brainless popcorn flick you'd expect. 1
Ditto Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 [ATTACH=CONFIG]61068[/ATTACH] The system fails those who can think for themselves again! If I'd rated this when I left the cinema, it probably would've got a 9. Have both the originally released DVD and the multiple cut version, and still have "My True Love's Eyes" on my Spotify list. It's far more interesting having us see the world in different ways. I expect if we were all looking at the same thing, we'd all perceive it slightly differently. For example, if I saw a multi-coloured Llama, some would see a Zebra - no points for guessing who I'm thinking of for having 'black and white' view of the world . I was going to post images to illustrate, but I'll leave that to others!
mavhc Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 Not black and white, there's literally 100 levels. Watched: World of Tomorrow: 100% on RT World of Tomorrow 2: 8.1/10 on imdb World of Tomorrow 3: 8.7/10 on imdb
LeMarchand Posted March 8, 2021 Author Posted March 8, 2021 Yep - critics are always right 10 Movie Masterpieces Panned By Critics During Their Release – Taste of Cinema – Movie Reviews and Classic Movie Lists and in touch with what audiences want to see https://www.businessinsider.com/24-box-office-hit-movies-that-were-bad-according-to-critics-2018-3?r=US&IR=T#1-transformers-age-of-extinction-2014-24 1
Garacesh Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 Not black and white, there's literally 100 levels. I, too had heard this.. I hear there's around 50 shades, and then another 50 that're allegedly darker. 1
Ditto Posted March 8, 2021 Posted March 8, 2021 Yep - critics are always right 10 Movie Masterpieces Panned By Critics During Their Release – Taste of Cinema – Movie Reviews and Classic Movie Lists and in touch with what audiences want to see https://www.businessinsider.com/24-box-office-hit-movies-that-were-bad-according-to-critics-2018-3?r=US&IR=T#1-transformers-age-of-extinction-2014-24 I wonder if a reverse list exists - revered by the critics but panned by the public and tanked on revenue?
LeMarchand Posted March 8, 2021 Author Posted March 8, 2021 I wonder if a reverse list exists - revered by the critics but panned by the public and tanked on revenue? I did look, but most lists I saw didn't exactly match this. There's this recent one from The Indie, but I can't remember all these being critically acclaimed: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/brilliant-movies-box-office-flop-b1813428.html This list is closer, but I can't remember Cloud Atlas or The Fountain (both of which I love) getting great reviews. https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/best-films-box-office-bombs/warrior-2010/ IIRC Shawshank generally got good reviews, but opened to poor Box Office.
mavhc Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 I wonder if a reverse list exists - revered by the critics but panned by the public and tanked on revenue? That's most of them, hence you compare critic reviews and public votes, combine with your tastes, and easily find films you'll like
Danp Posted March 9, 2021 Posted March 9, 2021 I watched this on Saturday. Glad to have seen it, but won't be rushing to watch again...
sparkeh Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 What Men Want: laugh free comedy with dubious morality.
mavhc Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 52%, 42%, system still works. Watched the 4k bluray of 2001, 92%.
LeMarchand Posted March 10, 2021 Author Posted March 10, 2021 Watched the 4k bluray of 2001, 92%. Not when it was released. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(film)#Critical_response Also I found it, like most of Kubrick's work, too clinical.
mavhc Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 I await the future critical reappraisal of "What Men Want"
witch Posted March 11, 2021 Posted March 11, 2021 @sonofsanta Thanks very much for the recommendation re Greenland. As you say, not a standard disaster movie. There were definitely a few nail-biting moments! Worth a watch, definitely [ 1
Danp Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 Greenland with Gerard Butler and Morena Baccarin (Amazon Prime). If I tell you that it's Gerard Butler running round trying to save his family from an impending meteorite, you'll immediately get an idea of what this film is that is, astonishingly, entirely wrong (certainly I did). It's actually a fraught, tense disaster movie without ridiculous feats of superhuman ridiculousness, and is pretty stressful to watch at certain points because stuff goes really wrong and you're sat there thinking how in the hell you'd handle it. Surprisingly good movie, not at all the brainless popcorn flick you'd expect. Watched this on Saturday because of this post. Was a couple of predictable moments but otherwise a decent film. Also, both teenage daughters actually stayed and watched it all. 1
Ditto Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 "Avatar reclaims title as highest-grossing film". Having seen this on BBC website this morning, I had to check my Amazon Prime account this morning as we watched it last night. It was indeed an excellent film. Fortunately the headline is purely a coincidence!
LeMarchand Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 I've always felt Avatar was overrated, though this may be partially due to my difficulty seeing 3D. However, it's a masterpiece compared to: Time Traveller (Amazon Prime) aka The Lovers aka Singularity aka La Prophétie de l'anneau (The Prophecy of the Ring) A team of marine archaeologists (though one later seems to be a lecturer/expert in Quantum Physics) in the future, from the tech, discover a wreck on the seabed with a ring that we also see in another bookend set in what could be the time of the main story, or maybe the far past/future, about a prophecy concerning the ring. When trouble strikes, Jay (Josh Hartnett) ends up comatose and we get the main story, set towards the end of the 18th Century, about a Scottish soldier (also Hartnett) falling in love with an Indian warrior princess. The main story is beautifully shot and would've made a satisfying movie on its own, though the ending would need changing, but the "prophecy" bookend isn't tied into it well enough and the SF bookend makes no sense. We're left with a mishmash of The Far Pavilions (Brit/Indian romance), Outlander (possible time travel with a Jamie and Claire - here James/Clara, though they're not "the lovers"), Cloud Atlas (nested stories with recurring actors) and The Fountain (love spanning far-flung time periods). It seems there were financial difficulties during the shoot but it's hard to see how, short of a Snyder-length cut, this could've made sense. Hard to believe this is from the guy who directed The Mission and The Killing Fields. Only recommended if you want to see if you can spot something I missed (or dropped off in) that makes sense of the movie or, if you like the look of the Indian stuff, fast-forward to it and fade out when Tulaja heads into the dark forest to find James and imagine your own ending.
ICTDirect_Dave Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 I've always felt Avatar was overrated, though this may be partially due to my difficulty seeing 3D. Me too, but that's because it's essentially just a shinier version of Ferngully: The Last Rainforest
mavhc Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Very expensive films have to have a story that attracts a wide audience
witch Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 Skylines on Netflix The third in the series So good I only remember the first one! It was OK - a bit of fun to pass the time. Huge plot holes, didnt know what was going on half the time but hey, aliens!
LeMarchand Posted March 21, 2021 Author Posted March 21, 2021 Coming 2 America (Amazon Prime) Belated sequel has Zamunda under threat from Nexdoria as Prince Akeem has "merely" fathered three girls and has no male heir. A handy bit of retconning reveals a hitherto unknown male heir in Queens, who must be trained to rule Zamunda so that he can marry the ruler of Nextdoria's daughter and unite the kingdoms. Yep, you've worked out the ending already, but it's a tolerably entertaining film. The amount of music and dancing in it is barely a step away from a musical comedy, rather than just a comedy; if the music is to your taste this may be an added selling point. If you're a huge fan of the original you probably won't be impressed, but if you remember it as being a funny film but little else you may. Wesley Snipes totally steals the show as the evil ruler of Nexdoria and is almost watching the film for. 1
Simcfc73 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Skylines on Netflix The third in the series So good I only remember the first one! It was OK - a bit of fun to pass the time. Huge plot holes, didnt know what was going on half the time but hey, aliens! Lara Croft in space......
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