Popular Post elsiegee40 Posted March 24, 2010 Popular Post Posted March 24, 2010 EduGeek.net Forums - Pedantic Geeks A new social group for those of us who develop a nervous tik every time we are asked to install English(UK) and feel angry when the only option is English(US) It is also for those of us who spend so much time spotting the spelling, punctuation and grammar errors we forget to read the posts! Never mind the joys of a beautifully used, well placed semi-colon! Enjoy 14
Crispin Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 Nooo! Listen to Stephen. He'll make you all understand! Series 2 Episode 3, Language The New Adventures of Stephen Fry innit. 2
SimpleSi Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Where's the neg. rep. button wen u neeeeed it. You don't need a social group;- you need theropy Si Teacher : How do you spell "water" Jonny: W O RT E R Teacher: That's not how you spell "water" Jonny: Oh yes it is! Edited March 24, 2010 by SimpleSi 2
localzuk Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 You don't need a social group;- you need theropy Therapy
tech_guy Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) EduGeek.net Forums - Pedantic Geeks A new social group for those of us who develop a nervous tik It's tic, not tik..... Edited March 24, 2010 by tech_guy
powdarrmonkey Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 EduGeek.net Forums - Pedantic Geeks A new social group for those of us who develop a nervous tik every time we are asked to install English(UK) and feel angry when the only option is English(US) yass! Joined. Count my support
GrumbleDook Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 As much as I believe in Mr Fry's point of view that language should be allowed to grow and evolve... the sheer scale of laziness that is forcing this change is my pet irk. The written language is based in the idea that it helps us develop speech patterns, with some punctuation to denote pauses and others to denote emphasis. Without a good understanding of this then we lose so much.
PiqueABoo Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I think you should have your own sub-forum so everyone else can ignore it ;b When I first got on the net almost 20 years ago, the still significantly academic consensus said grammar/spelling pedantry in forums i.e. largely conversational places, was bad netiquette.
p858snake Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 It's tic, not tik..... Tik tok on teh clock! are you going to brush your teeth with a bottle of Jack now?
witch Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I think you should have your own sub-forum so everyone else can ignore it ;b When I first got on the net almost 20 years ago, the still significantly academic consensus said grammar/spelling pedantry in forums i.e. largely conversational places, was bad netiquette. Perhaps, until we get to the point at which it is very difficult to understand what others are trying to convey, given their lack of said grammar and spelling!
Hacksawbob Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Surely it should be the campaign for accurate grammar? That would give you the acronym cfag though.
tmcd35 Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 The written language is based in the idea that it helps us develop speech patterns, with some punctuation to denote pauses and others to denote emphasis. Without a good understanding of this then we lose so much. While I'll agree up to a point I will repeat what I've said several times over. It's the content and meaning of what is being said that is important - not the method in which it is being said. While spelling and grammar is important it is secondary to the message. I know I can't spell for toffee and I'm sure I've used more than the odd punctuation mark in the wrong place. But really, I don't care! So long as you understand the meaning of what I type I can't see as being of that great an importance. Sorry. (actually, I'm not that sorry - just trying to be polite )
witch Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 While I'll agree up to a point I will repeat what I've said several times over. It's the content and meaning of what is being said that is important - not the method in which it is being said. While spelling and grammar is important it is secondary to the message. I will repeat what I said: spelling and grammar enable the message to be put across effectively. The odd typo or misplaced semi-colon doesn't matter too much, of course, but when the errors escalate, the original message is lost. There are a large number of words in the English language whose meaning changes profoundly with the change of just one letter (e.g. Affect and Effect) so it is quite important to ensure (insure?!) that you use the correct one. Otherwise you will be misunderstood.
elsiegee40 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 @tmcd35, I agree that meaning is everything. However, good grammar ensures that what is written is less likely to be misunderstood. Unfortunately, poor grammar is irritating to those of us who can spell and punctuate, in the same way that an untidy room is to those who cannot stand mess. We cannot help it! Having said that, I'm as guilty as the next in not reading through my typing before posting. So I regularly end up editing after posting. It has taken real self-control not to correct my mis-typing of 'tic' in my opening post on this thread! Having a social group for us to moan in, might stop us taking threads off-topic as we let off steam! ( I only said might!)
localzuk Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Another thing to remember is that for people who English is not their first language, reading poor grammar and spelling will be a lot more confusing than it is to us. They won't know the nuances of our language to the extent that we do.
pete Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 On any forum where you're asking for help, people tend to regard native English speakers who use txt/leet speak or just can't construct a sentence as idiots. So if you're inarticulate or come across as a twit, you're likely to be ignored (or possibly flamed, depending on the forum).
LosOjos Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) These very forums spell check your every post in US English, am I the only one who thinks that US English is just lazy English?! Sure, some of the spellings make more sense on the face of it, but grammatically they're breaking the rules! Color?! What the hell is color? Oh, you mean colour, well then why didn't you say so?! [/rant] Edited March 25, 2010 by witch Language
sparkeh Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 More of this kind of thing. I'm in. And now I have to careful vet all my posts to make sure I don't make any mistakes.
HarryMonkey Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 More of this kind of thing. I'm in. And now I have to careful vet all my posts to make sure I don't make any mistakes. Including this one.
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