Ian_Cooper_Printware

HP OfficeJet Pro X476DW (p/n CN461A) Fast, ridiculously cheap to run, decent quality output. Cashback OR 90-day money back guarantee. I think quite a few people on here have used them and liked them.

This is a guess, but I suspect that it's probably only possible to print full bleed A3 when you are using SRA3 paper (which then would mean trimming down anyway). I've never come across a laser printer (or MFP) that offers genuine full bleed on any size of media.

Have you considered the HP OfficeJet Pro X range? They are inkjets rather than lasers, but very different from any other inkjet you've ever seen (take a 9k black and 6.6k colours). A full set of inks is still getting close to £300, but your getting around 2.5x as many pages for your money. I know there are a lot of people on here with experience of them. The single function device is the CN463A - OfficeJet Pro X451dw. It's definitely under budget and comes with cashback or a 90 days 'love it or your money back' guarantee.

Excellent review! The fact most of these also have either £100 cashback (up to 5 units, I believe) or a 90 day money back guarantee should you want to try one makes them a very good choice. Additionally they can be had at a very good price between now and July down to HP throwing additional resource at them.

That works! I'm a bit disappointed that he didn't get more distance on it myself. Julien, the I've never heard a bad word about the P6030... as I commented in another thread yesterday it uses the same toners as the older FS-C5350 and even the FS-C5300 series, which means if you've been using the older models it's wonderful for keeping the different number of toners to a minimum.

The new generation of 65in Iiyama screens are 10pt touch (up from 2pt on the models that were discontinued before Easter) and I believe come with a 5yr warranty for education. I've seen a few different manufacturers offering trolleys that convert to tables; some mechanically, others electrically. One of the manufacturers recently told me that 2014 was the first year that more units of these devices were sold than interactive whiteboards. I can certainly say that I'm seeing this as a huge area of growth as we head towards the summer.

spadam. As I understand it that is only true with a small minority of printers on the market nowadays. I've certainly had calls from customers unhappy with the gradual use of CMY when just printing in black, and it's never been a situation with an easy fix.

The FS-C5350 has been replaced with the P6030cdn... one handy thing to note is that the new model uses the same TK560 toners! This is obviously a bit bloody handy if you have some of the old model already. edit: Additionally the FS-C5150 has been replaced with the P6021 (TK580 in both) and the FS-C5250 has been replaced with the P6026 (TK590 in both).

The big problem with the 8570s compared to earlier solid ink printers is that the power supplies have a tendency to fail if you happen to look at them the wrong way. From my experience Xerox will repair this particular fault FOC even if the device is out of warranty.

Xerox toner based MFPs under the CPC framework are very competitive from my experience, and also tend to be pretty reliable. The solid inks under 3 tier billing tend to have the best TCO going, but as people say the wax isn't for everyone.

Smudging on modern inkjets shouldn't be much of a problem... The X476 you mentioned in the first instance is a very decent device, and there are some good deals on them out there at the moment (they were on promo last month, and lots of resellers stocked up). As an added bonus, HP are offering a 90 day money back guarantee on the OfficeJet Pro X models currently. Details can be found here. https://h41201.www4.hp.com/buyandtry/registration.asp?sid=553763070&cid=&lid=&cs=&ls=&pid=

It's very early doors on these, but the Epson RIPS (Replaceable Ink Pack System) printers seem to be pretty good. I wouldn't see it as a replacement to a heavily used workgroup copier, but in the right environment they are very sensible. We have one of the A3 8590 devices in house (not the RIPS version, but in all other respects it's the same) and it seems very decent so far. I print about as much to it as I do a Samsung CLX-9251 and our HP M4540 and all seem as easy to use and have similar up time. Having the device ship with 70,000 pages of ink can only seem a good thing to me.

HP and Epson have both invested heavily in their business inkjet ranges, meaning they now have a number of inkjet printers that are cheaper to run than most colour laser printers. From HP, the cheapest are the OfficeJet Pro X devices with the full width print heads. They can take cartridges that offer up to 9,000 pages in black and 6,000 pages or so in CMY. They are decent devices, even when printing on standard copier paper. The ordinary OfficeJet Pro devices sit below these in HPs range and have smaller inks, but are more devices aimed at a home office user. Epson offer their WorkForce Pro range, and these are cheaper to buy, but I'd say slightly less robust, than the OfficeJet Pro X range. Devices like the Epson WorkForce Pro WF-5690DWF can take 4,000 page inks and are not a dissimilar running cost to the HP Pro X range. The Epsons also currently have a 3 year warranty available free of charge (you have to claim this though, it's not automatic).

This is a little known 'thing' with colour laser printers... almost all of them produce what they call 'composite black', which is where they use the colour toners in low quantities as part of standard black and white printing. I'm not sure if there are any that specify that they don't do this, though IIRC the Ricoh C430/431 models are a real rarity in that they will continue to continue to print in mono when one or more of the CMY toners are empty. If I can think of any that you can 100% shut off use of the CMY when printing in mono I will post again, but I'm far from sure there are any.

There's no simple answer. It depends on the volume of printing, how much is A3 and what the average coverage is likely to be. If most of the prints are A3 and high coverage then look at a Xerox Phaser 7500 on PagePack. This is a cost per click contract which is coverage irrelevant (so no fair use policy, which is perfect for lots of large pictures). The click isn't super-cheap, but it is the same price for A3 and A4 which is rare nowadays. Oki do a higher quality device in their ES (Executive Series) range, but it's a little more expensive to run. If quality is a concern, then a reputable vendor should be able to get print samples for you from the manufacturer. Hope this helps a little.

At the moment it's only available for a very limited range of printers, but it's certainly an idea. As far as I can see, the current products are: HP ENVY 4500 e-All-in-One printer series HP ENVY 5530 e-All-in-One printer series HP Officejet 4630 e-All-in-One printer series HP Officejet Pro 8610 e-All-in-One printer series HP Officejet Pro 8620 e-All-in-One printer series HP Officejet Pro 8630 e-All-in-One printer series HP Instant Ink | Eligible Printers | HP® United Kingdom

The HP OfficeJet Pro X and Epson Workforce Pro models will have a lower running cost than just about any laser (assuming using original cartridges). They don't have as big a duty cycle/recommended monthly volume as a mid-range laser though.

Nowadays it's not such a clear distinction and what you should go for will largely depend on the volume of printing you do. If your volumes are not too high, then it's worth looking at the HP OfficeJet Pro X range (X476dw and X576dw) as they take high yield (9k black, 6k colour) inks. As an alternative the Epson Workforce Pro series (WF-5620dwf, takes 4k yield inks) is worth looking at too.

The FS-C5150 went EOL a few months ago and has now been replaced by the P6021. Handily they use the same toners, which is great if you want to keep things uniform. It may be worth paying a little extra and going for the P6026 (has replaced the fs-c5250) as they have bigger toners and work out about 25% cheaper to run. One of the great things about Kyocera is that even using original toners your running costs should be pretty similar to using a reputable compat in an equivalent HP device. Regarding the ceramic drums; they do have a maximum life, but they have good warranties (exact details will be at the end of the printer data sheet). When they do go it's often cheaper to replace the printer.

The OfficeJet Pro X models are very good. I think it will take a while for people to accept inkjets in a more traditional laser role, but both HP and Epson have been spending a lot of time and money on their new serious business inkjets. I agree the P3015 are solid as hell. It's worth looking at the Samsung 3820 with the 5yr warranty at around that level too.

Lasers all come in at pretty much the same decibel rating, simply because they all use similar types of motors/mechanisms to do the same job. A good business inkjet would tend to be quieter, but I'm not sure if that's what you are after. I'd definitely avoid Xerox solid-ink on this as they tend to be louder. Any of the site sponsors should be able to help. Good luck with your search.

If the life is showing 83% on the interface then call Oki tech support in Slough (01753 819800) and they will probably swap it out for you FoC. They are the most helpful of the vendor tech support lines I have come across.

I can definitely confirm what SYNACK has already posted... KTH-LJ4014/512 is the Kingston part number you need.

I'm hearing good things back from my end-users about Canon's newer lasers, so I hope the 7750 works out for you. Am glad one of my suggestions seems to have hit the mark!

There are loads that fit the bill, but here are a few of the less obvious boxes that I can suggest to look at that tend to be well regarded that fit your criterea: Ricoh SP C312dn - A lot of printer for not a lot of money. Kyocera FS-C5350dn - 30ppm colour and mono and probably the cheapest to run using OEM toners in your budget. Samsung CLP-670nd or 770nd - you mentioned the 620, but at the moment the next model up is cheaper than the 620. The 770 is more expensive nut cheaper to run. Canon i-Sensys LBP7750cdn - Good printer at a decent price... OK running costs and a free 3yr warranty. But also what FN-GM said about refurbs is a good idea... There are a lot out there and they can be great value.