Dos_Box Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 As regards the high street, it is not just the internet which is to blame. Many councils are bumping up rents and rates at a shocking level year on year. Not to mention increased car parking charges in all town/city centres. The more businesses that leave/go bust the more they put up rates/rents/parking to cover the losses. Tt's a vicious circle. Most out-of-town shopping centres have none of this baggage. IMO, if the high street is to be saved then local councils really need to get a business head on, but given most council 'leaders' are not business people this won't happen.
localzuk Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 As regards the high street, it is not just the internet which is to blame. Many councils are bumping up rents and rates at a shocking level year on year. Not to mention increased car parking charges in all town/city centres. The more businesses that leave/go bust the more they put up rates/rents/parking to cover the losses. Tt's a vicious circle. Most out-of-town shopping centres have none of this baggage. IMO, if the high street is to be saved then local councils really need to get a business head on, but given most council 'leaders' are not business people this won't happen. Yup. A friend of mine was talking about a market in one town where a family member of his has a stall. They have been told that the market building is going to be demolished, and a new building built. Which is fine, however, the rates they have to pay will go up by a factor of 10. Which means the stall can't run, as they don't make enough money to do that. So, the new building, as fancy as it'll be, will have no stalls because they can't afford to run. There's nothing wrong with the old building either, its one of those concrete builds and has many years left in it.
BenABF Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Oh I agree totally, I don't think the super markets help HMV either due to having a range of CDs, DVDs and electrical goods, all with the convinience of free parking, some times 24 hour opening and being able to do it all in one shop. Still theres walways the need for another coffeee shop
Earthling Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Makes me wonder if there will be any shops left in these great big shopping centres that have been built in towns and cities, some less than a decade ago Hey, that'd be good............maybe they can be converted into apartment buildings instead so people can have somewhere to live and the ridiculous price of housing can come down. Same goes for all the dying High Streets. Just my two penn'orth.
Fleetwood Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Oh I agree totally, I don't think the super markets help HMV either due to having a range of CDs, DVDs and electrical goods, all with the convinience of free parking, some times 24 hour opening and being able to do it all in one shop. Still theres walways the need for another coffeee shop That may be well and true, but HMV doesn't have f***ing annoying shoppers who randomly stop right in front of you - or think their trolley is a go-kart that can magically go through people!!! (Yes, I am an online shopper.) Sad to see HMV go down to this but I could see it coming. Their prices weren't at all reasonable (bar a few bits and bobs) and as has been said, they weren't keeping up with the digital times. I expect our store in Gloucester will suddenly get the bargain bunch rolling in. When our Comet store was closing, people were coming from the Forest of Dean just to buy printer paper. LOGIC! Edited January 15, 2013 by Fleetwood
rich_tech Posted January 15, 2013 Author Posted January 15, 2013 Looking at the locality here, I wish local authorities would stop with the trying to squeeze every penny out of you for parking on streets and lay by's it makes town a no go area and puts people off I believe (local authority has the audacity to put meters by these bays to charge people 50p for 20 mins of parking in a short stay bay), at the same time though my town centre has a problem with landlord companies charging well over the odds for retail units. It sums it up here when the Disney store that we had is set to close shortly in our main town shopping centre, because its rent and rates are too high to the point where it isn't competitive to be open according to its manager when we were in there the other day, he told us in the two years they have been here they were getting crucified by costs which had doubled on renewing their initial lease. Local satellite towns and areas to us outside of our council, have much better shopping areas as a result with ample free parking, yet we have an authority here, that just doesn't get it.
andyturpie Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 For what we save on buying on line we will eventually spend more on tax to support unemployment benefits. The concencus is that we "feel sorry for those that are facing uncertainty of employment", but the truth is we don't and we cannot until we start keeping the High Streets alive. This is the unpleasant side of technological advancement.
Danp Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) https://twitter.com/BBC3CR/status/291121262149922816/photo/1/large Edited January 15, 2013 by Danp
CHR1S Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Argos is probably the best example of how to run a brick and mortar along side a web store. I was also VERY shocked last weekend when I stepped foot inside a B&M Bargains store for the first time. What an amazing place!! haha Its like a supermarket and tat store rolled into one and CHEAP! I'm converted!
localzuk Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Argos is probably the best example of how to run a brick and mortar along side a web store. I was also VERY shocked last weekend when I stepped foot inside a B&M Bargains store for the first time. What an amazing place!! haha Its like a supermarket and tat store rolled into one and CHEAP! I'm converted! I'm a fan of Argos. I buy a fair amount of stuff from them still - they're convenient! Go online, check stock, buy and voila you can either get it delivered or collect from the shop. Simple. Plus, their prices are often pretty good. Got my TV, Blu-Ray player and an external hard disk from them over the last couple of years.
Fleetwood Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Argos has to be the only place that can get customers to do their catalogue shopping IN the shop. They know what they're doing!
elsiegee40 Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Argos was way ahead of its time. I remember when the Harrogate branch opened in the back of Woolworths in the late 1970s. It caused great excitement. It was a simple model that was just waiting for the internet to happen. The other catalogues didn't have the shop-fronts to promote their brand and when the internet did take hold, they were well placed to take advantage, but didn't have the turn-over of Argos. HMV's problem is a failure to keep up with the internet shopping revolution as soon as it happened. It let the likes of Play.com do the internet while it remained a shop-front. HMV was too slow and it's paid for it now.
TechMonkey Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Damnit, I could see this coming and meant to spend my vouchers last weekend. Unfortunately, like a muppet, I left the vouchers at my Parents house so thought I'd do it this weekend. See I am psychic, just rubbish at following my predictions
Gatt Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 [ATTACH=CONFIG]16700[/ATTACH] https://twitter.com/BBC3CR/status/291121262149922816/photo/1/large Erm.. surely the latter statement about exchanges and certainly refunds is against a customers statutory rights?
localzuk Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Erm.. surely the latter statement about exchanges and certainly refunds is against a customers statutory rights? When they enter the legal status of being in administration, they get to suspend a bunch of rights...
themightymrp Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Just like Jessops aren't honoring gift vouchers or returned goods: jessops | Wilson Field News | Insolvency | Liquidation | Finance
hardtailstar Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 [ATTACH=CONFIG]16700[/ATTACH] https://twitter.com/BBC3CR/status/291121262149922816/photo/1/large oh furry balls of bag! I was going to go there today. Very annoyed now as had the voucher for christmas but was waiting for a few dvds to come out so was going to pop in today to buy them.
mattx Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 If I had any HMV vouchers I would happily go in and steal what I wanted for the amount I had in vouchers. The items have already been paid for. 1
Gatt Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 When they enter the legal status of being in administration, they get to suspend a bunch of rights... Yeah found out after I posted that... thanks
hardtailstar Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 If I had any HMV vouchers I would happily go in and steal what I wanted for the amount I had in vouchers. The items have already been paid for. That idea crossed my mind when I found out.
bondbill2k2 Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 First Woolworths, then Zavvi, Blacks, Jessops now HMV...Its happening!!!
CHR1S Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 If I had any HMV vouchers I would happily go in and steal what I wanted for the amount I had in vouchers. The items have already been paid for. I would do something similar, then probably bottle it just before the security barrier sensor thingies
jinnantonnixx Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Bricks and mortar retailers simply can’t compete with the likes of online giants like Amazon and iTunes. Indeed, Amazon is now exploring ways to offer same day delivery as standard, a move that will surely see off the likes of Waterstones, WH Smith, and many more. A report by PWC and the Local Data Company shows that store closures averaged 20 per day last year. The key losers have been toy shops, clothes shops, jewellers, card shops and furniture stores. Meanwhile, convenience food stores, charity shops, pawnbrokers, betting stores, and (worryingly) payday loans companies, are all thriving. The changing high street » Spectator Blogs
CAM Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Voucher holders are unsecured creditors, they come last in the debt list. But if you think you are worried over £40 of gift vouchers, imagine the panic running through shareholders.
5tu Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 And next up it's Blockbuster.....! - Blockbuster in administration - ITV News
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