Windows 98 Usage

[linuxgirlie]

Hi,

 

I was wondering how many people still use 98 in their schools? and if so why?

 

 

Thanks,

 

Jo

[webman]

Up until the end of October last year the technology department had about 11 old Dell machines (GX50s, 800MHz + 256MB RAM) just stand-alone. We built them on to the main network

[Irazmus]

We have a Win 98 box running our library, soon to be replaced with a new XP box. We even have a Win 95 box running in SEN, but as they don't want to upgrade, and I don't support it, I don't see it being replaced any time soon.

[Pottsey]

We still have a handful as for the why well money and there are better things to spend it on. The few win98 computers do the job fine and there is little reason to upgrade. Saying that I plan to get rid of all the win98 computers in classrooms before the years out. It’s taken me until now to almost get rid of all the Acorns. Still 3 left one of which the teacher finely said she would get rid of this year.

 

The careers and library computers will be more tricky as they don’t come out the IT budget. I don’t see either being upgraded for a long time.

[SimpleSi]

I'm down to about 15% (varies one school about 80% - another only has 2 actual machines)

 

Simple lack of money/priority (if its not broke etc) means they are still there.

 

BUT all but 2 of my schools use a Win98 machine as the school "server" e.g. acts as file and dhcp server (the other 2 use W2k3)

 

I'd love to move to say using a replacement open source solution for this BUT I CAN'T GET ANY HELP WITH HARD CODED IPs IN MY PREFFERED SOLUTION

 

regards

 

Simon

[Uraken]

we use them here (sort of) i have taken iexplorer and most ther programs and run a custon shell to launch a terminal server session for about 15 machines here (it means i can reuse the machines at a bout £40 (terminal server cal and office 2003 licence).

[GeeDee]

I'd love to move to say using a replacement open source solution for this BUT I CAN'T GET ANY HELP WITH HARD CODED IPs IN MY PREFFERED SOLUTION

 

I don't see your thread on this elsewhere; but if you're just talking about DHCP reservations, then it's ridiculously easy under ISC DHCPD. Lmk if you want a sample config or something, or ignore me if that's not what you mean.

 

Apologies for minor thread hijack.

[linuxgirlie]

He is talking about the fact that so far in Karoshi, we hardcode the IP's we are slowly sorting this out, and replacing any IP's with variables, but we don't support schools who change from the default as it can cause all sorts of problems. Much easier for the school to have a firewall running NAT.

[phil_thebeans]

Managed to get rid of all except 5 machines that we have to use W98 on as RM successmaker is on them and the version we have wont run on anything else (upgrade is £200 per machine).

 

If it aint broke why fix it?

[contink]

This relates to a school I'm taking on in a months time...

 

They have a suite of over 20 Win98 machines plus a few others in classrooms, and only 5 tempramental (flakey as heck) WinXP machines too... The reason why is simple.. They were given VERY bad advice and support by their private cosultancy firm who were being paid £1,700 for basically doing nothing.

 

They had no idea that support no longer existed for the OS and thought it was "standard" for half their machines to be unusable at any given time.

 

Not for long...

[ChrisC]

Oh, i said no, but we do have a couple stand alone old laptops running it controling a couple of cnc machines in tech.

 

We do have a 2.4 server running, but thats nt4, not quite classified the same! S'only used for email (soon to be exchange).

 

Chris

[Domino]

got a room of 30-odd at one site.

 

We're gonna replace them after we've had our new IT suite built

[flyinghaggis]

I said no aswell but I think there's still a stand-alone PC connected to an envelope printer somewhere as they never go 2000/XP compatible drivers for it and a couple of stand-alones in science used for data logging.

I'll bet it's the same case in another 10 years with windows XP! Takes ages to fully phase out an OS :?

[acb_]

We have a standalone machine in the library.

[sidewinder]

Can happily say we havent got a single one, and we've even almost phased out Windows 2000.

 

There might be an ancient laptop hidden in a teachers cupboard with 98 on it still but I dont count anything I dont know about

 

We have however still got an Acorn A3000 in one of the science rooms. Ive no idea if it gets used but it would be mean to get rid of it now, its earned its right to stay

[Heebeejeebee]

Managed to get rid of all except 5 machines that we have to use W98 on as RM successmaker is on them and the version we have wont run on anything else (upgrade is £200 per machine).

If it aint broke why fix it?

 

Same here with 4 PCs. We dual boot them with XP with the W98 pretty much crippled.

 

I had a right moan at the SENCO the other month because she bought 3 new SuccessMaker licences but for W98 not XP :twisted:. I was a bit surprised you could still get them. When asked why she did this since she has XP boxes in the room she replied "Well I know this version". Gaaaaahh!!

 

HBJB

[tosca925]

Not since 2002 when we went all to XP

[john]

Im happy to say XP rules supreme

[Guest PatBoland]

Some very lucky people out there!

 

Our Curriculum is NT4 and Win98 and has been for 6 years and will be for another 2 years min.

[DMcCoy]

I'm not sure how schools can justify (not blaming the techs - if schools don't want to spend they don't!) using a system that is unsupported with no security updates when they are dealing with confidential data and other stuff covered by the Data protection act. Does your MIS still support NT and 98?

[Guest PatBoland]

Admin system is Win2000pro and a separate domain, MIS - Phoenix Gold. Everything is looked after by me ICT Technician (or network Manager on the cheap) SMT not ICT literate but hey they run the school. We have 600+ students 80+ staff and I just get by, sticky plaster comes to mind!

 

Maybe people can visit us to see how it was!!!