Zoom7000 Posted February 2, 2007 Posted February 2, 2007 We have an issue where when the teachers or pupils plug in a USB Flash Drive, Windows is telling them they need to be a member of the Administrators group. So in theory, we need to go round every PC with every type of USB Flash Drive ever created and type in the admin password! The exact problem is when the drive is inserted, Windows first tried to install drivers for the device, then for "USB Mass Storage Device", "Disk Drive" and "Generic Volume". Admin credentials are requested at every stage of the "install". Is there any known workaround for this so that Students and Teachers can use USB Flash Drives without any request for admin credentials? I know RM have released a patch for this, but we are using a Vanilla Windows Server 2003 network.
mrforgetful Posted February 2, 2007 Posted February 2, 2007 I'm getting this as well, though not with most of the PCs/sticks or users just the odd one every now and again.
Zoom7000 Posted February 2, 2007 Author Posted February 2, 2007 xp clients?Yes, sorry, I forgot, all are XP SP2 Clients, fully updated, and I think it was definately one of the patches that caused it. It's been ages though, so I don't have the slightest clue which update it could be.
ChrisH Posted February 2, 2007 Posted February 2, 2007 I get that all the time and they now know to ignore it and when they go to my computer it has actually loaded itself
Zoom7000 Posted February 2, 2007 Author Posted February 2, 2007 That used to work quie nicely, however, even that stopped working for some reason!
SpuffMonkey Posted February 3, 2007 Posted February 3, 2007 Far as I know - this is a problem with drives that do not have "certified" MS drivers, and we can't find a work round apart from using kit that is certified - like Kingston.
tosca925 Posted February 3, 2007 Posted February 3, 2007 I'm getting this as well, though not with most of the PCs/sticks or users just the odd one every now and again. Same here for us too.
Zoom7000 Posted February 5, 2007 Author Posted February 5, 2007 I seem to be getting this problem with the majority of USB keys. Is there anyway to get round the driver signing issue? I have set Group Policy to ignore driver signing, but obviously it isn't.
leon Posted February 5, 2007 Posted February 5, 2007 Hi, This could be the answer to your problems. It works great here and is free to use in an edu environment... http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html It runs as a service on the client pc, which makes adding a USB device independent of user privileges. You can also make it assign letters within a stated range, so it doesn't clash with mapped drives if a usb key is plugged in from boot. :-) Regards, Leon.
mortstar Posted February 5, 2007 Posted February 5, 2007 Far as I know - this is a problem with drives that do not have "certified" MS drivers, and we can't find a work round apart from using kit that is certified - like Kingston. Yes this is what I understand as well. We're having the exact same problem here. Most decent pens work - but I've seen some that have a little area that load as a USB-floppy drive to try and auto-install drivers (!!!). Also the pen's that act as mp3 players seem to throw the problem up as well. Basically because they don't conform to the USB Mass storage standards. Hi, This could be the answer to your problems. It works great here and is free to use in an edu environment... http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html It runs as a service on the client pc, which makes adding a USB device independent of user privileges. You can also make it assign letters within a stated range, so it doesn't clash with mapped drives if a usb key is plugged in from boot. :-) Regards, Leon. I use this thing at home to get a Memory Card reader with 5 assigned drives to map to a single folder instead. If this fixes the problem it's going straight on the builds and would save me a lot of time from VNCing into machines.
mrforgetful Posted February 5, 2007 Posted February 5, 2007 It dont think it is a driver signing issue. A lot of them are LG Memory Xsticks bought from us in sizes ranging from 128Mb up to 2Gb, one students will work fine and another wont when it's seemingly identicle. On a side note, anyone seen these 16Gb sticks http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=10506&category_id=147&manufacturer_id=0
Zoom7000 Posted February 5, 2007 Author Posted February 5, 2007 Excellent! Thank you very much! That worked superbly! Albeit you get the message that they don't have the permissions, USBDLM still installs the USB device anyway!
molesm Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 We have a silmlar problem, we let students use memory keys, so they have work on them, recnetaly every machine has started to request admin deatils, this is beacsue the drivers are not digatly signes but they are micrsoft default drivers, and the same meery key works fine on the test machine which has the same GPO being applied, by using USB DLM, some of the machine have started to work ut not all of them, we are not particuary keen on distrubuitg a fix that does not work on all machines. This is a recent problem, as in the last two weeks we have had one or two request whoch we though nothing off, but today we have had requests from all over the school asking us to install memory keys. Does anyone have any ideas why the drivers are now unsigned which were previusley signed. p.s. we have recenaqtly added mirossoft as a trusted publisher in software restriction policy but we tried turuning it off and still we had the same porblem
mrforgetful Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 Sorry was only meant as a joke. I've removed it as best I can. *shuffles off ashamed*
molesm Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 This is getting quite frustrating now having to run round the school typing in administrator username and passwords, so if anyone has any suggestion no matter how crazy I would like to hear from them We have a similar problem, we let students use memory keys, so they have work on them, recently every machine has started to request admin details, this is because the drivers are not digitally signed but they are Microsoft default drivers, and the same memory key works fine on the test machine which has the same GPO being applied, by using USB DLM, some of the machine have started to work but not all of them, we are not particularly keen on distributing a fix that does not work on all machines. This is a recent problem, as in the last two weeks we have had one or two request which we though nothing off, but today we have had requests from all over the school asking us to install memory keys. Does anyone have any ideas why the drivers are now unsigned which were previously signed. p.s. we have recreantly added Microsoft as a trusted publisher in software restriction policy but we tried turning it off and still we had the same problem, (however we did just remove the certificate and it is our only certificate, so it may not have undone any changes that it made)
limbo Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 One trick that usually works on our network is to switch the PC off then plug in the USB drive and then switch the PC on - it gets installed by the system not the user like this so that access rights are not an issue. Sounds crazy - but it usually works for our students.
molesm Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 One trick that usually works on our network is to switch the PC off then plug in the USB drive and then switch the PC on - it gets installed by the system not the user like this so that access rights are not an issue. Sounds crazy - but it usually works for our students. Thanks I'll give that a try
molesm Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Unfortunately that does not seem to have worked. Any other crazy ideas?
daveyboy Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Beechen Cliff this end. This is how we do it. We install our OS + any software (i.e.Studio 8, MS office, updates etc). Then we create a Local user. Using this account, we configure all of our apps (including those pesky add ins for excel) and set all of our preferences (i.e. Office toolbars, layouts, - Basicly anything that can be fiddled with; we fiddle. We then install drivers for every camera, printer, mouse keyboard, scanner and anything else we can think of. We then plug in our USB kit (authenticate if needed) - assign the correct drive letters etc. Then reboot, log in as local admin - copy our local users profile to the default profile.......... Works for Us.
molesm Posted April 3, 2007 Posted April 3, 2007 Ahh, but diffrent memory keys, need to be instatled so you would need a large collection of memory keys to isnatll them all
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