pete Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 I'll let the pictures speak for themselves, other than saying no it's not here - I found them in a thread on another forum and yes, they're on bare earth outside.
featured_spectre Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 ingenious method, but not something i would do
rad Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 and in no cable run anyway. mice spring to mind.....
Ric_ Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 The ingenuity astounds but it certainly wouldn't be my method of choice.
synaesthesia Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 With those connectors, that was either a sparky or a telecoms engineer. Quite likely a sparky when they've untwisted that far back with no idea why you shouldn't.
GREED Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 I want to go one better and mention that when a refurb happened at my last place, the av installed used CAT5 cable as speaker wire... because they had nothing else. That is brilliant!
sted Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 I want to go one better and mention that when a refurb happened at my last place, the av installed used CAT5 cable as speaker wire... because they had nothing else. That is brilliant! ive seen 2 core mains lead used as speaker wire before now
Andrew_C Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 ive seen 2 core mains lead used as speaker wire before now So? Perfect for it; only becomes a problem with systems needing more than 2.5mm csa cables. And if the run is short, and low powered, CAT5 would be fine too. Especially tiny speakers near whiteboards.
MYK-IT Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Nothing wrong with Cat5 as speaker cable (as long as you're into braiding!) DIY Cat5 Speaker Cables Speaker cable made from braided Cat5
GREED Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 All agree this is not a problem, but not when you have paid for it, aaaand you have this horrible purple wire sticking out of the wall!
GrumbleDook Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Shhhh .... don't say purple is horrible ... you know a certain person will coming in and have to kill you ...
john Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Holds hand up, I've done that type of repair / quick mod before, Jelly Crimps are cheap enough (Ive got a box full here under my desk I got years ago) and it works fine and does the job. Never use it for a permanent connection though that's just silly but a repair where damaged or a temp I need a connection for a few days would be fine. I've also used cat6 for speaker wire, it works fine and does the job and cheaper at the time than a roll of speaker wire, was only a short run between an amped speaker and the other side in an IT room does the job, but I wouldnt' use it for a big setup like School Hall etc.
AngryTechnician Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 I have actually seen this method in my current school, though only indoors and hidden inside trunking!
sidewinder Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Admire the ingenuity but I certainly wouldnt want to be using whatever is connected to that cable! If we have a similar situation here I usually terminate both ends with an RJ45 connecter and use a coupler
SpuffMonkey Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Heres one from a previous job - twisted together & covered in tape....
fafster Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Saw something similar in my previous job. They (a member of the teaching staff) stripped the plastic and twisted the wires together. The look of bafflement on their face when it wouldn't work was priceless.
Andrew_C Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Again, no real reason why that shouldn't work. Wire wrapping is a common connection method inside serious (sometimes painted green) equipment. Same process. OK, I'd not use it for anything other than a quick fix to tide you over until you can do a proper job.
soveryapt Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 I think the worst job I've seen of late was by a contractor my school had bought in to sort an office refit over the holiday (sparky work as well as network so they lumped it all together). The wire wouldn't reach the new cab so they fitted one of those lovely CAT5 connector blocks and put a new stretch on to the cab. This is ok in my book as the extra length was only 2m (maybe 3m) but the problem was, they just shoved the wires into the box and punched randomly by the looks (our deputy head was complaining she couldn't access SIMS which is why I found out). So at first, as there was no signal on the wire, I thought ok, they've not patched it, so popped my toner on and traced it back along and found this connector box. Had a look inside, realised what they'd done so repunched it .. Thinking GREAT it'll work now, I went back to test .. nope .. then found out, they'd even managed to punch it incorrectly into the COLOUR CODED PATCH BAY! So I repunched that and et voila, got a signal .. I keep thinking about testing the remaining cables in there as I worry there will be more problems like it .. I mean, it took the guy 2 days to figure out why his link from the cab to my main cab wasn't working (again, incorrect punching). I do worry about contractors that people pull in these days .. I certainly wish I was on the same hourly rate for doing such a poor job! lol ..
IanT Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 I always get any cabling guys to test every port\cable before they leave the job.
dwhyte85 Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 I always get any cabling guys to test every port\cable before they leave the job. I bet they love you
soveryapt Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 I always get any cabling guys to test every port\cable before they leave the job. They were meant to .. however, not being a job I've organised, but one that's been organised from above me, I didn't have the luxury. Showed my worth to the school though by getting her back up and running! Problem is as well, is that the guy is doing work on some portacabins we have on site now .. so I can see me having some fun when they're commissioned!
HarryMonkey Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 I always get any cabling guys to test every port\cable before they leave the job. They are meant to, and give you a printout of the test results showing speed etc. ... How else can they warranty the work if it's not tested. Quick question for all the "twist for a quick fix" people ... in the CAT5 spec, what is the maximum distance between the last twist and the point of termination? Answer: 12mm
pete Posted November 17, 2010 Author Posted November 17, 2010 Again, no real reason why that shouldn't work. Wire wrapping is a common connection method inside serious (sometimes painted green) equipment. Same process. OK, I'd not use it for anything other than a quick fix to tide you over until you can do a proper job. It's more the length of untwisted copper that's the issue. Plus random gnawing mammals under the house, not using outdoor rated cable. The background on this job was that a guy contracted electricians to do a few network runs in his house. Rather than going from A > B in a contnuous run, they ran a cable from A and B and then joined them in the middle.
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