laserblazer Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Once again I'm asking that we block youtube after witnessing inappropriate use during an ICT lesson.
mattx Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Me without YouTube ????????!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU MAD ????
elloyd69 Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 We block it using PCE forensics, really useful for staff to have access. I use it in my teaching all the time.
AngryTechnician Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 We block it, but primarily for bandwidth reasons, content is a secondary concern for us.
john Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Once I've got my LEA and Smoothwall singing in harmony (which I believe the good Sir Tom Newton is going to be working on shortly (if he didn't know yet he does now!)) staff will have access to Youtube but not students.
teddybear Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Although it's on a trial basis just now, both pupils and staff get access in our schools (nursery, primary and secondary) Whilst I can see how useful it is, there's so many things that the kids can access (nursery and lower primary schools) I have second thoughts about it's use. There has been talk of only staff getting access for use primarily in classes which I think is the right thing to do. I frequently see pupils in P6 upwards watching music videos all the time they are using the computers.
Batman Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 A lot of staff use youtube for teaching. Personally I think it's a contentious issue because it encourages the kids to use copyrighted material illegally but the teachers don't seem to care (they all do it as well to be honest). Of course, they won't let us block it but then get cross with their students who use it when they're supposed to be working. I think we should take a completely different approach but not many people agree.
OllieC Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Only staff, they don't half moan when they can't get on it, some of them are so reliant on it.
Popular Post CyberNerd Posted June 16, 2009 Popular Post Posted June 16, 2009 When it was blocked by accident a teacher told me "she couldn't do her job". I Agreed. 8
mullet_man Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 When it was blocked by accident a teacher told me "she couldn't do her job". I Agreed. Ha ha
john Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 I hope you were agreeing that the loss of youtube was the cause not anything else! Our staff miss youtube as they had it through an alternative supplier for a while, so just trying to get it re-sorted for them, but at no point will students get it! I have made that very clear and have posted up the section of the Terms of Use that reference that minors shouldn't be allowed access to it.
OllieC Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Agreed, there are some times when staff access to youtube is necessary when dealing with cases of happy-slapping or sometimes where a video of someone doing damage to the school gets uploaded.
laserblazer Posted June 17, 2009 Author Posted June 17, 2009 Agreed, there are some times when staff access to youtube is necessary when dealing with cases of happy-slapping or sometimes where a video of someone doing damage to the school gets uploaded. Agreed, but it is so easy to move material they need onto another source, that is likely to be more stable into the bargain.
mullet_man Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 When it was blocked by accident a teacher told me "she couldn't do her job". I Agreed. What did teachers do before YouTube???
laserblazer Posted June 17, 2009 Author Posted June 17, 2009 What did teachers do before YouTube??? I wonder if anyone asked the question "what did teachers do befor chalk?"
Domino Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 once we got smoothwall in we gave staff access, but never students. Of course the real question is how a video of a cat jumping in a box relates to geography......
ICTSM Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I hope you were agreeing that the loss of youtube was the cause not anything else! Our staff miss youtube as they had it through an alternative supplier for a while, so just trying to get it re-sorted for them, but at no point will students get it! I have made that very clear and have posted up the section of the Terms of Use that reference that minors shouldn't be allowed access to it. If so, then you are looking at a whole new can of worms...well, at least new because of Youtube. Staff will allow students access to their accounts just to access youtube. Hoorah!
sippo Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 We block it for all. There's plenty of resources on teachertube for members of staff.
dave.81 Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I had to tick the staff and pupil option, although we do not allow all pupils access to it, just 6th Form. Although if it was my choice i'd not allow them to access it either but i've been told, as i'm sure some of you have been told the same, that they cannot teach without it
Pete10141748 Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 All the blocking here is done by E2BN/LEA/SWGfL and they chose to block it for pupils and allow staff to access it :shrug: I have been repeatedly denied the ability to do in-house filtering and so everyone is now aware that I have no power or control over blocking, and that's that. If a teacher puts up a youtube video in their class that isn't appropriate and gets called up on it, it's no skin off my nose; I really don't care about it anymore. Of course the real question is how a video of a cat jumping in a box relates to geography...... hmmm, perhaps it was actually a science lesson and it was Schrödinger's Cat
muppet Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 We've blocked it for all Staff and Students.......had quite a few complaints at first, teachers saying that they needed it as a teaching resource so I pointed them in the direction of TeacherTube. Now they're complaining that TeacherTube is ok but there's no funny stuff on it like YouTube....so much for needing it as a teaching resource!
CAM Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I clicked the wrong button after misreading the question as what would you like for YouTube policy. I clicked Allow Staff instead of Blocked by LEA. It isn't blocked completely though. I tis inacessible on school grounds but the LEA will provide the video if the teacher contacts them saying why they need it. THey can then gain access to the video through the LEA's site. It works well, leaving us with no worries about filtering and the teachers get their videos for class.
mb2k01 Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 I'm quite an open-minded guy. I remain neutral on most subjects and listen to both sides of a discussion before forming my own opinion.... but..... WHY is YouTube such a massive issue to teachers who can't access it? Yes, it IS a resource which has useful content - but it is not the ONLY resource out there! The fact is that YouTube has unacceptable content on it - in the form of viewer comments and suggested videos which are risque. WHY should countless amounts of time be spent trying to argue for this resource to be available if the flip side is it would be subjecting pupils to inappropriate content!? At my places of work, YouTube is filtered by RM SafetyNet Plus. I occasionally provide access to YouTube on an individual basis (for large scale science experiements too dangerous for school etc), but go no further than that. Smoothwall is an option we may go down in the future - but I have to say - the ONLY reason we would need to look at an internal proxy is to support the repetative requests for access to this innapropriate website to cover up for inadequate teaching preperation and/or creativity. (Extra disclaimer: All above and any further replies on this topic = My own personal opinion. Not that of my employers - nor the official line taken by the people / teams I manage!)
powdarrmonkey Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 We permit staff access but use Smoothwall's word weighting and comment blocking to minimise the risk. So I guess you could say a hybrid. (mattx without youtube?? might as well retire now!)
Grommit Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Once again I'm asking that we block youtube after witnessing inappropriate use during an ICT lesson. The staff would riot.... they use it for teaching Ie History, English, Geography etc
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