Cloud based DVD replacements?

[mrhall]

Dear All,

 

Our newest computers aren't going to have DVD drives - naturally most teachers have no idea what a DVD is... But English are a little upset!

 

Any recommendations for a means of purchasing digital versions of films so we can host on a cloud system - rather than pass actual DVDs around the school.

 

Thanks

 

Peter

[RLR]

Another option might be https://www.clickvieweducation.com/

 

Not used it myself but they do have a lot of content on there.

[mavhc]

Basically impossible due to licencing, set up a system to record every film on iplayer, then they're fine if you have an ERA licence

[nwkeene]

I'd have a quick look at https://www.intofilm.org/ Its an online resource for education and whilst it doesn't have recent blockbusters etc... it had Romeo and Juliet when our English dept we're looking for an 'online' version.

 

We've used Microsoft Stream here for other videos (self made) as a repository etc... but now Stream has been 'improved' and is now just treated as a 'file' living in your sharepoint system.

 

It might be worth pointing out that use of home or 'personal' Netflix and Amazon Prime accounts (and others) is not allowed in education environments as it goes against the terms and conditions of the respective companies.

 

Resources might be on Youtube and that would work in education.

[DrCheese]

Clickview is a good shout, tho we scrapped it after having it for 10 years when the price shot up (Was £1995 went to around 3k)

Ironically we found it better value to just buy some external DVD drives & some discs of highly used films - Gave departments notice, they told us what they needed & we bulk one off purchased.

[jthompson]

Clickview is a good shout, tho we scrapped it after having it for 10 years when the price shot up (Was £1995 went to around 3k)

Ironically we found it better value to just buy some external DVD drives & some discs of highly used films - Gave departments notice, they told us what they needed & we bulk one off purchased.

 

That was our experience, too. Even mounting a network-hosted ISO copy of a purchased disc fell foul of licensing. We needed to purchase X number of copies in order to have X concurrent uses, all running from local, physical discs.

 

IME anyone who isn't me is terrible at keeping optical discs from looking like they've used to polish the floor, so it's hardly sustainable.

[mavhc]

DVDs are super cheap these days, £1 max

[bjeffery]

https://learningonscreen.ac.uk/bob/

 

I have used this at a previous school. A recoding from every channel - also allow teachers to edit clips of video.

[DrCheese]

IME anyone who isn't me is terrible at keeping optical discs from looking like they've used to polish the floor, so it's hardly sustainable.

 

eh, we figured that cost of replacing faulty DVD's was still much MUCH cheaper than renewing clickview year on year.

[Danp]

USB DVD drives. Buy 1 or 2 for the departments that need them and leave them to manage who has one and when. Even if you have to replace those and or DVDs every year or so it's a lot cheaper than online packages.

[3s-gtech]

Just spend a bit more on buying good external drives. I've bought some cheapies that had decent drives inside the enclosures, but the USB interface units were terrible and unreliable.

[jthompson]

eh, we figured that cost of replacing faulty DVD's was still much MUCH cheaper than renewing clickview year on year.

 

'Sustainable' is perhaps not what I mean as much as 'low wastage'

[PotNoodleTech]

Yes all our Lenovos had no DVD drives.

 

USB DVD drives are rubbish.

 

Went for actual DVD players with HDMI output in to the TV - job done reliable and high quality plus you can use 50pence dvds from car boot sales all day long.

[supportman]

We use planet Estream, rip any DVD's or iPlayer clips to it and all staff have access through Office 365 SSO.

 

Also good for copying YouTube clips to.

[TechMonkey]

Planet eStream is the digital successor to the old TV and VHS in the corner. Though it looks like they have had a rebrand into just eStream. It allows recording from freeview broadcast, as well as uploading your own resources. If one person has recorded something, then everyone has access to it. You also get 30 days back recording and a whole host of other content. Not cheap, but I seem to remember it was cheaper than ClickView.

 

Big disclaimer, it looks like they have been bought out by UniGuest so I cannot comment on how the company is now. Used to be very responsive and friendly.

[mavhc]

We use planet Estream, rip any DVD's or iPlayer clips to it and all staff have access through Office 365 SSO.

 

Also good for copying YouTube clips to.

 

How is it legal to rip DVDs to it?

[PotNoodleTech]

How is it legal to rip DVDs to it?

 

Probably about as legal as ripping a CD to an MP3 or a TV program to a Sky box.

[supportman]

How is it legal to rip DVDs to it?

 

No idea on specific case law, but schools are covered here:

 

Copyright licences for state schools in England - GOV.UK (http://www.gov.uk)

 

I'm sure you can argue to death the conflicting laws and licenses in this area.

[mavhc]

No idea on specific case law, but schools are covered here:

 

Copyright licences for state schools in England - GOV.UK (http://www.gov.uk)

 

I'm sure you can argue to death the conflicting laws and licenses in this area.

 

Only the filmbankmedia one would cover films, and they say they have to be played from dvd or bluray

[mavhc]

Probably about as legal as ripping a CD to an MP3 or a TV program to a Sky box.

 

Recording off the TV is fine, and showing that recording in school is covered by the ERA

 

Ripping a CD isn't legal afaik

[CHiLL]

We haven't had DVD drives on machines for a while now and use Emby on one of our NAS devices. Any DVDs that staff want to use as educational resources, we'll rip the disc and upload it to Emby (based on the idea that we've already purchased it, just playing it another way). We set up departmental user accounts in Emby and can set libraries to only show to specific users/departments.

 

Only the filmbankmedia one would cover films, and they say they have to be played from dvd or bluray

It looks like it only applies to "maintained state schools". Do academies still fall under that category if they're not LEA maintained...or are they still classed as maintained since most of the money still comes from the government?

Edited April 30, 2024 by CHiLL

[DrCheese]

we'll rip the disc and upload it to Emby (based on the idea that we've already purchased it, just playing it another way).

 

Problem is that's not legal - The law was briefly changed in 2014 to allow format shifting but then squashed by judicial review a few months later.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/quashing-of-private-copying-exception

 

Yes, it's nuts.

[techedu07]

We either have a cheap DVD player in the rooms, or we specify a DVD drive in the computer for the teachers machine only.

[LeMarchand]

Anyone know how much https://www.intofilm.org/films costs?

[ITGuyNW]

Its free for schools but it doesn't work for us anymore as I think the IP/ISP is blocked. Rang them to investigate and got no where.