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Oaktech

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Not even one week, and already a completely broken start button.

 

 

I've had this on windows 10 though... try manually starting startmenuexperiencehost.exe this has fixed it for me on windows 10 a couple of times. But other times I've had to just nuke the install from orbit too.

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Katy

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I put it on my desktop at work a few weeks ago. I've had the insider version on my personal laptop since about July and upgraded my main personal PC the day it was released.

 

Only found 2 things at work that don't work any more (so far):

 

- Epson T88 receipt printer. I use a virtual port with the Epson port mapper thing. Opening the port mapper and pressing "test" on COM7 (directed at a networked printer) and some text prints. Try to open COM7 from a program and it says the port doesn't exist.

- Hikvision CCTV webcomponents plugin thing. In Edge in IE11 mode, the plugin loads but it won't stream any video.

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CyBeRkId2002

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Apologies if this has been covered... but how do MS requirements (7th Gen+, TPM2.0 etc.) affect the education version of Windows 11.

 

We have installed on a computer that meets NEITHER of these requirements and it installed fine. I was expecting it to carry out some kind of system check but no - have any early adopters rolled out on a large scale? How have you found it? Any issues with updates etc.

MartinT

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Apologies if this has been covered... but how do MS requirements (7th Gen+, TPM2.0 etc.) affect the education version of Windows 11.

 

We have installed on a computer that meets NEITHER of these requirements and it installed fine.

 

Does it have an AMD CPU? There are more compatible AMDs than Intel, especially as they have built-in TPM.

FN-GM

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If you manage to get it onto unsupported hardware, what happens in future upgrades? There could a risk of your computer not booting...
CyBeRkId2002

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If you deploy via MDT/WDS it just outright ignores the checks. It's only if you do via the upgrade wizard or a normal iso it'll whinge

 

This was from an ISO so I guess that ignores the checks too and it is just the upgrade wizard.

LeMarchand

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This was from an ISO so I guess that ignores the checks too and it is just the upgrade wizard.

 

I've only had W11 refuse to install from ISO or MDT/WDS on one machine (newer/better than some it has installed on). As an upgrade, most of the ones I have access to won't play ball.

mavhc

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Given that when you install windows 11 with "unsupported" hardware, it says absolutely nothing about that being a bad idea, I don't think it'll make a lot of difference. If it does, buy new hardware (which you'd have to do anyway if you ignored the "unsupported" part), or put Windows 10 back on it
DrCheese

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If you manage to get it onto unsupported hardware, what happens in future upgrades? There could a risk of your computer not booting...

 

I'm sorta waiting for the first major update to see what MS do in this situation. I'm likely to leave our unsupported classroom machines on Windows 10, but moving the odd few to 11 where I think it'll help (eg the IT curriculum office to get them used to it)

ITGuyNW

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To mirror others, I have installed Windows 11 on a HP 840 G1 laptop from MDT and it went fine. However like others I'm weary about pushing forward with any rollout as Microsoft could crack out the ban hammer at any point.
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MartinT

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W11 has been good since the early days of release. I can't understand all the negativity around it. The hardware requirements are completely understandable in a world of vulnerabilities and attacks. It's just people resistant to change, as usual. I use it at home and love it.

 

We will suffer as much as most schools in that half our fleet won't comply with TPM and CPU requirements, so it'll be a phased migration.

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supportman

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W11 has been good since the early days of release. I can't understand all the negativity around it. The hardware requirements are completely understandable in a world of vulnerabilities and attacks. It's just people resistant to change, as usual. I use it at home and love it.

 

We will suffer as much as most schools in that half our fleet won't comply with TPM and CPU requirements, so it'll be a phased migration.

 

The lack of drag and drop on taskbar, missing seconds on the clock, slow right click menus and various other bits showed it was a rushed release with big missing functionality.

 

Saying that i've been using it as my home desktop for a while now and the next service pack looks totally awesome!

 

I've also just found a registry hack to move the start menu to the left which works with Group Policy so rolling it out at work should also be possible now without too much fuss.

LeMarchand

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W11 has been good since the early days of release. I can't understand all the negativity around it. The hardware requirements are completely understandable in a world of vulnerabilities and attacks. It's just people resistant to change, as usual. I use it at home and love it.

 

We will suffer as much as most schools in that half our fleet won't comply with TPM and CPU requirements, so it'll be a phased migration.

For me, it's the hardware requirements which seem more like a way to shift more hardware :tinfoil3:. I've got 11 on a laptop that I rarely use and a tablet I've recently been gifted, but none of my main machines at any of my sites will upgrade (the one set up from new wouldn't even load 11 from ISO) and I don't have the time or energy to start from scratch. My two home PCs are also no-go with the same lack of time to start from scratch, and I haven't got around to trying my "just the basics" laptop that shouldn't take too long to rebuild.

 

Plus the trying to look like an Apple OS and the death of the full screen start menu with live tiles. This is coming from someone who liked 8 and even Vista!

tmoon-mint

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W11 has been good since the early days of release. I can't understand all the negativity around it. The hardware requirements are completely understandable in a world of vulnerabilities and attacks. It's just people resistant to change, as usual. I use it at home and love it.

 

We will suffer as much as most schools in that half our fleet won't comply with TPM and CPU requirements, so it'll be a phased migration.

 

The problem I have is the rug pull Microsoft have done with Windows 11. We were told since 2015 that Windows 10 was the last version of Windows and that it would just receive periodic updates (like macOS). Now we are told not only is that not true but also we have new and strict hardware requirements to contend with. By the time Windows 10 goes EOL I would be surprised if we still had any kit that didnt meet these requirements but thats not the point.

 

The taskbar feels like change for change sake. What benefit do you get from having the start button in the centre instead of on the left where it has been for the last 20+ years? We still have a weird combination of Settings and Control Panel just like Windows 10. File Explorer hasnt changed since Windows 7 and is showing its age, in my opinion it looks awful in dark mode.

I use Windows 11 on my daily device and its fine I just dont see a reason to upgrade. One of the key features Microsoft advertised was running Android apps from the Amazon store and even that is still in preview.

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LeMarchand

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One of the key features Microsoft advertised was running Android apps from the Amazon store and even that is still in preview.

 

Plus, why not the Play Store? For some reason the Amazon one seems lacking in non-Kindle ereaders...

Rob_D

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We were told since 2015 that Windows 10 was the last version of Windows and that it would just receive periodic updates (like macOS).

TBH going up by a version number and dropping off support for older hardware every few years sounds exactly like Mac OS to me. 11 goes out through windows up date pretty automatically on supported hardware if you let it, so would it really make a difference if it was called "Windows 10 Update 2"?

 

It also makes a good business case to replace all our older PCs over the next couple of years.

supportman

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The problem I have is the rug pull Microsoft have done with Windows 11. We were told since 2015 that Windows 10 was the last version of Windows and that it would just receive periodic updates (like macOS). Now we are told not only is that not true but also we have new and strict hardware requirements to contend with. By the time Windows 10 goes EOL I would be surprised if we still had any kit that didnt meet these requirements but thats not the point.

 

The taskbar feels like change for change sake. What benefit do you get from having the start button in the centre instead of on the left where it has been for the last 20+ years? We still have a weird combination of Settings and Control Panel just like Windows 10. File Explorer hasnt changed since Windows 7 and is showing its age, in my opinion it looks awful in dark mode.

I use Windows 11 on my daily device and its fine I just dont see a reason to upgrade. One of the key features Microsoft advertised was running Android apps from the Amazon store and even that is still in preview.

 

I have good contacts with Microsoft employees, living in the same area as their headquarters and I can tell you that most of them were just as suprised as us about the new version of Windows. It was apparently a marketing department decision and many people were confused inside the organization as well. Marketing won in the end apparently!

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