Coronavirus: General discussion (see opening post for rules)

[mavhc]

Another 9000 people dead yesterday

 

This is the best thing I've found about protecting yourself from transmission https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fB5pysccOHvxphpTmCG_TGdytavMmc1cUumn8m0pwzo/edit

[keyboards]

Can someone clarify a point for me and I'm happy to hold my hands up if wrong

 

I enter an office wearing a mask the whole way there, when I get there, I take my mask off to talk to someone behind a desk at least 2 feet away and the other person is 4 feet away? Is that fine, I've got so lost in the rules, I'm doubting myself

[Andrew_C]

2 feet? Frankly, I'd leave my mask on at 2m, unless there was a communication problem.

[keyboards]

Metres, yeah sorry not feet, too early on a Sunday

[Steve21]

Can someone clarify a point for me and I'm happy to hold my hands up if wrong

 

I enter an office wearing a mask the whole way there, when I get there, I take my mask off to talk to someone behind a desk at least 2 feet away and the other person is 4 feet away? Is that fine, I've got so lost in the rules, I'm doubting myself

 

Well based on the latest update you don't take it off at all in an office, at least that's what we've been told here in the latest staff emails:

 

Must now be worn in offices and all other communal areas

 

In terms of "officially" though, I think it still falls under "insert workplaces" discretion:

 

In situations where social distancing between adults in settings is not possible (for example when moving around in corridors and communal areas), settings have the discretion to recommend the use of face coverings for adults on site, for both staff and visitors.

 

Steve

[mavhc]

Whenever you take off your mask you're increasing risk for other people if you unknowingly have it, and increasing risk for yourself, doesn't matter what distance. Closer is worse of course, but any distance increases risk.

 

7500 dead yesterday. Over 50 million cases in total.

 

Follow the mutations here https://virusgateway.wustl.edu/

[Ditto]

Whenever you take off your mask you're increasing risk for other people if you unknowingly have it, and increasing risk for yourself, doesn't matter what distance. Closer is worse of course, but any distance increases risk.

 

7500 dead yesterday. Over 50 million cases in total.

 

Follow the mutations here https://virusgateway.wustl.edu/

I know the topic is serious and the info is irreputable, but recent posts have left me with an earworm from Private Frazer of Dad's Army fame. The less young will know what I mean...

[Norphy]

Cpl Jones comes to mind as well. They're both appropriate.

 

Had to take my 4 year old son to get tested yesterday . The testing centre was in a car park for a recreation park in Hayes, Kent. There were maybe half a dozen cars in the car park but still loads of people milling about going to the park. You'd think that they'd be more careful to close the place off if it's going to be a COVID testing site.

 

Oh well, isolating until we know the results, hopefully won't be afterwards.

[Lonix]

I think common sense just needs to seriously prevail here.

 

Stay safe. Two simple words.

 

You go to the cinema and share a large room with 100+ people. It can only take a single cough to expose that entire room. That's 100+ people at risk.

 

I share an office with a couple of others - I cough and I expose them.

I go to a classroom with 30 kids and a teacher - I cough and I expose them.

I walk along a corridor which could be used by 100+ students at a lesson change over - I cough and I expose them.

 

Again, we need to think about common sense here. I wear a mask and it cuts the risk. i wash my hands often, have gel.. just a little bit of cutting the risk.

 

Think driving - you feel good, not tired, not ill and focus solely on your driving. You ignore the tailgater, the swerving cyclist and you focus on your driving. It cuts the risk - there is always the chance you can still make a mistake or someone hits you out of the blue.

 

Its about cutting the risk. Surgeons wear masks and clean thoroughly - to cut the risk. Hospitals need to be cleaned, health staff wearing the kit and masks.. - to cut the risk.

 

We really need to pay attention to just cutting the risk. You can spend 24/7 staying safe and taking every precaution but it takes one person to cough near you.. for you to be at risk.

 

I'd place a bet on the 100 people staying safe and not catching it.. compared to 100 people ignoring the rules and getting it.

 

How many would still be alive if we all made this effort back in January? If you don't believe its serious.. fine.. just stay safe for the sake of others.

[Duranis]

Had to take my 4 year old son to get tested yesterday .

 

Hope it comes back negative and your little 'un feels better soon.

[Theblacksheep]

There were hundreds of people chanting 'masks off' in manchester yesterday, we vote against our own interests, common sense is not an attribute of the UK population.

[Duranis]

There were hundreds of people chanting 'masks off' in manchester yesterday, we vote against our own interests, common sense is not an attribute of the UK population.

 

It is absolute insanity. I'm STILL seeing people spouting off how "it's no worse than flu". Even saw someone the other day saying "well I'm not scared of getting it so don't need to wear a mask". They had no comprehension that wearing a mask was to protect everyone else. You would think by now the basic facts of how this stuff works should be commonsense knowledge.

 

Then again working in IT we all know how much commonsense most people have...

[Andrew_C]

A lot of people still read the Scum.

[6Foot2]

A lot of people still read look at the Scum.

 

Holding that 'publication' in your hands can hardly be described reading!

 

[synaesthesia]

But it's soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent!

[Rob_D]

Think driving - you feel good, not tired, not ill and focus solely on your driving. You ignore the tailgater, the swerving cyclist and you focus on your driving. It cuts the risk - there is always the chance you can still make a mistake or someone hits you out of the blue.

While I agree with everything else you're saying 100%, the driving analogy doesn't really work for me. It's like saying, put your mask on and ignore everyone else. Surely in both driving and covid you need to be mindful of your surroundings so you can react to protect yourself from other people's stupidity.

[mavhc]

I think common sense just needs to seriously prevail here.

 

Stay safe. Two simple words.

 

You go to the cinema and share a large room with 100+ people. It can only take a single cough to expose that entire room. That's 100+ people at risk.

 

Doesn't need to be a cough, just breathing is a problem. Maybe when you don't even know you're infected.

 

Saturday's deaths were slightly higher than last Saturday's

[jthompson]

You would think by now the basic facts of how this stuff works should be commonsense knowledge.

 

In order for common sense to have an impact on the spread of the virus, we'd need at least 80% of people to be using it. By itself, common sense won't defeat the virus, but it's still a useful tool to have, even if the number of people who've adopted it is still relatively low.

 

/s

[jthompson]

I've seen a number of reports of levels of the disease beginning to level off, but I wonder how much of the progress made in previously high-level areas is being offset by rising infection levels in previously lower-level areas.

[paulkerton]

I've seen a number of reports of levels of the disease beginning to level off, but I wonder how much of the progress made in previously high-level areas is being offset by rising infection levels in previously lower-level areas.

Also, there may be a levelling off, but what we need to see is a fast and drastic and consistent reduction.

And then we don't need a frivulous, unwarranted and wreckless quick reopening again like August and the Eat Out to Help Out nonsense.

[Mark182]

Very interesting - Covid vaccine: First vaccine offers 90% protection. Article from the BBC Edited November 9, 2020 by Mark182

[StevieM]

Very interesting - Covid vaccine: First vaccine offers 90% protection from the BBC

 

Protection from the BBC? I can see Sir Cliff being first in the queue.

[jthompson]

Very interesting - Covid vaccine: First vaccine offers 90% protection from the BBC

 

Presumably only until a new strain of the BBC evolves.

[Slarty66]

I work in an area that had low-levels of infection before the summer, but we are now in a high-level infection area.

We have several members of staff and students off work now with Covid. And several more having to isolate due to family members.

It's worrying for staff and students. I'm not sure personally how long we will be totally open as it could come to a point that we don't have enough staff.

[Duranis]

Possibly should go in the annoying things thread and is a bit of a rant/vent but just been chatting to my 75 year old mum while I was at lunch and she tells me that my sister has been telling her she needs to "get out more, go take a walk around the town"!

 

Apparently "she knows some people are going to die but everyone needs to just get on with it or we will never develop an immunity".

 

This is edugeek so I won't put my response here. Needless to say I'm more than slightly annoyed that my sister is telling our "at risk" Mum to be taking buses/taxis to "have a browse 'round town" during a flipping pandemic/lockdown.

 

Meanwhile me and my other sister do everything we can to avoid contact with other people so we aren't needlessly putting others at risk. It's absolutely breaking my heart that I wont even take my kid to the park and my stupid sister is going to have a browse around friggin' poundland just to kill a bit of time.

 

(Sorry for the rant)