Coronavirus: General discussion (see opening post for rules)

[keyboards]

Does anyone know what the rules are if you get a local lockdown? Do you still go a work or is that a no-go, how does that work with your employer, obviously very hypothetical

[mavhc]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/north-west-of-england-local-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do

 

So we're back to more infections per day than the first time we locked down, how long will they leave it too long this time?

[6Foot2]

Does anyone know what the rules are if you get a local lockdown? Do you still go a work or is that a no-go, how does that work with your employer, obviously very hypothetical

 

During the last lockdown I worked nearly every day (weekdays) on site.

 

On the days I didn't I was able to set up enough work to keep me occupied for the day (occasional Fridays)

 

My boss expected this. I know this because a colleague (who has a compromised immune system as a result of therapeutical medical treatment) was not able to come in during lockdown, our boss questioned the reasons closely and at great length nevertheless.

 

Not sure what new circumstances will arise from a local lockdown.

[keyboards]

During the last lockdown I worked nearly every day (weekdays) on site.

 

On the days I didn't I was able to set up enough work to keep me occupied for the day (occasional Fridays)

 

My boss expected this. I know this because a colleague (who has a compromised immune system as a result of therapeutical medical treatment) was not able to come in during lockdown, our boss questioned the reasons closely and at great length nevertheless.

 

Not sure what new circumstances will arise from a local lockdown.

 

I work a fair way away, so if I was local it almost wouldn't be an issue, but in theory, I'd be going a fair distance.

 

I mean I can probably just easily work at home anyway and can't see it being a problem, was almost just curious what happens

Edited September 13, 2020 by keyboards

[smurfomatic]

I asked this question a while ago, as Northampton (where I live) was close to a lockdown, but I work 20 miles away so the school would be "clear". Never really got a response from SLT, then again this was while the school was closed and I was working from home so it never really made any difference.

[paulellam]

Does anyone know what the rules are if you get a local lockdown? Do you still go a work or is that a no-go, how does that work with your employer, obviously very hypothetical

When leicester was in Lockdown, well still is sort of, I lived out of the zone but still went to work at our school in the lockdown zone, this was allowed in the rules apparently.

[mikeprice]

What happens if your school is in a lockdown area

 

but you live outside that area

 

or the other way round??

 

are you locked down or is the school locked down??

[Aprice]

I work in Sandwell, but live in Nottingham. Sandwell goes back into lockdown (sort off) on Monday.

 

I will go in as normal, the only real change is that the kids wear masks in corridors.

 

Other than that it's business as 'usual'

 

Alex

[mavhc]

Got a conspiracy leaflet through the door today, so far reported the author's website to paypal for child exploitation, and twitter for promoting suicide. If only the hosting site reporting option worked

[elsiegee40]

What happens if your school is in a lockdown area

 

but you live outside that area

 

or the other way round??

 

are you locked down or is the school locked down??

 

Keyworkers gotta go to work.

 

I suspect being a keyworker, by virtue of being employed at a school, overrides lockdowns

Edited September 13, 2020 by elsiegee40

[mikeprice]

Got a conspiracy leaflet through the door today, so far reported the author's website to paypal for child exploitation, and twitter for promoting suicide. If only the hosting site reporting option worked

 

should it be reported to the Police??

[Garacesh]

Keyworkers gotta go to work.

 

I suspect being a keyworker, by virtue of being employed at a school, overrides lockdowns

 

Especially given how it's 6 people or less, but go to school anyway.

[MrFlibble]

Not sure what new circumstances will arise from a local lockdown.

The new local lockdowns aren't really lockdowns as such but just have a set of restrictions. These may vary by area.

 

There's a good discussion on 'local lockdowns' on this forum: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/local-lockdown-in-greater-manchester-east-lancashire-and-parts-of-west-yorkshire-discussion.207180/page-18 (there is a huge Covid19 section there with a wide range of topics; it's a really useful source of info)

 

For example if you live in a local lockdown area you may be restricted in terms of your social life but this would not in any way impact on your ability to go to work.

 

If your school is in a local lockdown area, but you live outside any such area, then you are not bound any such restrictions at home, but you would be bound by restrictions when in the relevant area, and the school would have to apply any relevant restrictions.

[Andrew_C]

 

No further comment.

[paulkerton]

I work in Sandwell, but live in Nottingham. Sandwell goes back into lockdown (sort off) on Monday.

I will go in as normal, the only real change is that the kids wear masks in corridors.

Other than that it's business as 'usual'

Alex

 

I live in Sandwell, but work in Oxfordshire, and my work is quite keen for me to keep working from home in the meantime.

I don't blame them. But my office isn't Covid secure anyway, and as such I'm being asked not to work from it anyway, regardless of lockdowns.

Edited September 14, 2020 by paulkerton

[the_quick]

I never understand the phrase "covid secure" - how can place be covid secure - this indicate that you cannot get covid in place like that. But you can't really make any space 100% secure. What would my office covid secure? 3 of us, we sit more than 2 m apart but often move around the office etc - I guess we create a bubble. People still come to the office, sometime without mask, students still being sent to (by mistake as they shouldn't). The only think we do is open our office and use hand gel quite often.

 

On another note, are there any rules, when school has to shut - how many pupils/staff have to be confirmed case?

[paulkerton]

I never understand the phrase "covid secure" - how can place be covid secure - this indicate that you cannot get covid in place like that. But you can't really make any space 100% secure. What would my office covid secure? 3 of us, we sit more than 2 m apart but often move around the office etc - I guess we create a bubble. People still come to the office, sometime without mask, students still being sent to (by mistake as they shouldn't). The only think we do is open our office and use hand gel quite often.

 

I'm totally with you on the given shorthand being nonsense, but that's part of the propaganda as they try to get people back into the office I guess.

People shouldn't be going to your office at all. Have you got signs telling people not to? I'd get them up sharpish! Everytime a student turned up there I'd have an email sent out reminding staff too.

You got plenty of ventilation? You should have your windows open, masks/face shields available and plenty of hand gel.

 

On another note, are there any rules, when school has to shut - how many pupils/staff have to be confirmed case?

I don't think there is a hard and firm rule other than "We don't have enough staff to cover this, so we have to"

Pupils wise. It's bubble based.... So if you're in class bubbles, you isolate each bubble as incidents occur. The school nearest to me is a primary with single form entry, but they mixed their bubbles as two year groups together, so they've just isolated 60 children and all the connected staff.

[mikeprice]

I think I have spotted the problem

 

normally I shop at Tesco - and normally afternoon or evening

 

but today I was at a loose end on the high street waiting for the bike shop to ferret out a bold to fix my bike

 

so I went to Asda (sorry - for any locals on here - The Asda) for some beetroot

 

There is a college quite close and it was lunchtime

 

it appears that

a) male (mostly) college students are incapable of wearing a mask - either that or the college has a MASSIVE proportion of students that have invisible medical conditions that prevent mask wearing

b) people who shop at Asda at lunchtime are also incapable of wearing a mask - due - presumably due to invisible medical conditions - which may or may not include stupidity and selfishness

 

In general there were a lot of mask wearers - but no more than about 75%

 

In Tesco there are normally 95-99% of people wearing masks when I go

 

 

 

 

 

NOTE - I am not blaming ALL young people - but it does seem that a significant proportion of the people who ignore the advise/rules are young

and also the sort of people who shop in Asda at lunch time

 

based on a single 10 minute visit - so probably not likely to pass peer review if published as a scientific paper

[LeMarchand]

I've found that I seem to be irresistible to people of both sexes whilst shopping. Someone will sidle up to me and start pretending that the goods I am in front of are worth catching Covid to get to. If only I had had this effect when I was a single man.

[Andrew_C]

The Asda

... the UK equivalent of "The People of Walmart"

[Ditto]

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[caffrey]

Local paper headline, contradicts itself... "Big drop in new confirmed coronavirus cases on Teesside amid struggles with test shortage"

 

 

One question, how do you tell the difference between the annual school cold and covid... or is covid the new annual school cold

[Andrew_C]

You've probably all seen that it is illegal to gather in groups of more than six - unless you are murdering the local wildlife.

[smurfomatic]

You've probably all seen that it is illegal to gather in groups of more than six - unless you are murdering the local wildlife.

 

Other exemptions apply, like "organised sport". This means that we can continue training as a touch rugby team, however we can't have the same people in a room for our AGM as that breaks the rules!

[6Foot2]

You've probably all seen that it is illegal to gather in groups of more than six - unless you are murdering the local wildlife.

 

It's all explained here:

 

Link: https://twitter.com/HopelessSurfer/status/1305502520677150721 [Picture Tweet]

 

The governments full list of #RuleOfSix exemptions. #RuleOfSixExemptions