mrbios Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Any choices other than BE 2014 for physical file server backups? Its expensive compared to something like BackupAssist. I have Veeam for virtual but need something for our physical file server. Using CA arcserve here, it's not brilliant but it seems to be reliable (something my experience of BE lacked greatly) we also use it to backup our VM D2D backups to tape.
JoeFulford Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 I use storagecraft Shadow Protect. It backs up all of the Virtuals on our two Hyper-V servers. Great piece of software. Got a seperate physical server running Server 2008 as our BDR server with Western Digital Elements HDD's that I swap around every couple days. I also run Shadow copy on our main DC to take snapshots of all the redirected folders for students and staff so that I can make a quick and easy backup if need be.
FragglePete Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Using BE2014 here; using it to backup Hyper-V Servers (V-Ray Edition) along with Physical and agent based backups on some VMs running on XenServer. Generally works ok; we do disk to disk then duplicate to a robotic library with LTO-5. Have the occasional random error message that seems to plague BE as a whole. The change in interface in BE2012 was massive but made sense as soon as you got your head round it. Been using BE for years, so its what I know really. Pete
psydii Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 Any choices other than BE 2014 for physical file server backups? Its expensive compared to something like BackupAssist. I have Veeam for virtual but need something for our physical file server. Yes. Virtualise it and move to VEEAM. It may well make you savings in time and cash over the longer term.
tobiasclarity Posted April 2, 2015 Author Posted April 2, 2015 Looks like after sifting through 12 providers we are leaning towards Redstor now had some great references aswell, will see how the fair over a year and then renew with someone else if needed
zag Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 Veeam to an SSD backup server. To say its fast and instantly recoverable is an understatement
tobiasclarity Posted April 2, 2015 Author Posted April 2, 2015 Veeam to an SSD backup server. To say its fast and instantly recoverable is an understatement Wow that must have set you guys back a fair amount, great setup but loads of money im sure!
zag Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 Wow that must have set you guys back a fair amount, great setup but loads of money im sure! Not really, the server was about £1,000 and the Samsung 1tb ssd disk drives are about £400 each. We just buy another one when we need to up the capacity or retention. Infact just looking at the prices now, they are only £280 each Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5-inch Basic SATA Solid State Drive: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
Chris_ Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 Any choices other than BE 2014 for physical file server backups? Its expensive compared to something like BackupAssist. I have Veeam for virtual but need something for our physical file server. I'm holding out for Veeam Endpoint (free) so that we can backup a couple of physical servers to our existing Veeam repository. 1
fiza Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 I was looking at veeam endpoint as its only one physical server so might give it a go.
JonThompson Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 MS DPM 2012. We used to use Backup Exec 2010 on our old network.
mrbios Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 2 years on from last posting in this thread and i've moved to veeam. Arcserve renewal prices went up, and having 3 hosts (6 cpus) meant a cheap easy switch to the enterprise essentials kit. I like veeams design that you only have to license what you're backing up, not where you want to restore to. Now backing up VMs from Server room in building A to an old SAN in building B. Also have DFS-R setup in read only mode in building B set to only sync on the weekends, so the data is physically live in two buildings, then veeam also does a tape job every friday (takes until early morning sunday to finish the full 4.7TB) which then get stored in building C in a fireproof safe. Additionally i've got a lab environment in building B made up of 2 physical servers that runs on a separate network that only my backup server can see. I can do restores directly to it and test changes without touching my main network at all. (I know veeam can do this to some extent with its sandbox mode, but this is for a bit more than just restore tests) Feel like i've got a nicely refined backup system now that didn't cost the earth. 1
kennysarmy Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 We've also jumped on the VEEAM bandwagon though are struggling to get the Cloud Connect to work through the SWGfL as VEEAM does not support using a proxy and requires a "direct connection"...
PotNoodleTech Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Feel like i've got a nicely refined backup system now that didn't cost the earth. Yes! I have no idea why people think Veeam is expensive, it's not, when you consider how important a solid backup system is, and when compared to other software.
flyinghaggis Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) We're currently running Microsoft Data Protection Manager 2012r2 for our backups but it's long due an upgrade to a newer better solution. The recent ransom-ware headlines in the news have caught management's attention so disaster recovery is back at the top of the agenda which is a actually a good thing I guess as it means we now have budget available I'm trying to work out what the best solution would be. Everyone on here seems to be raving about VEEAM so I'm guessing that's worth a look? From a disaster recovery point of view we definitely need some kind of offline backup to protect against ransom-ware and anything which could compromise backups on the live server. Tape seems like kind of an old school solution for 2017 so I'm think maybe cloud backups would be a better option though I haven't looked into the cost yet. Most of our servers are running using Hyper-V so we'd definitely want a solution that integrates with that. Is VEEAM the best best or should we look at another option? Is Microsoft Data Protection Manager 2016 any good? Any suggestions would be appreciated Edited May 19, 2017 by flyinghaggis
mrbios Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Veeam users i have a question: How come when I've done multiple full backups to tape, consisting of the entire 4.9TB of our data, does it then tell me that it needs tapes from a different set to complete a restore of a large set of folders? I don't understand why it would need tapes from another set, if i've done a FULL successful backup on to the set currently in the loader. It's making doing restore testing a pain in the butt.
flyinghaggis Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) Just use Veeam. Don't ask questions... just do it. Lol, pretty much everyone else on here seems to be using it so I'm guessing it must be half decent! Which of their products is everyone using? Just the free edition or do you have Enterprise Plus. What are the rough ballpark costs for the enterprise version and is it worth paying for in your opinion? Quite a few people on here seem to be sticking with tape backups. Is that because of cost of do you feel it's most secure or faster to restore than server backups which are stored on a cloud solution? Edited May 19, 2017 by flyinghaggis
mrbios Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) Lol, pretty much everyone else on here seems to be using it so I'm guessing it must be half decent! Which of their products is everyone using? Just the free edition or do you have Enterprise Plus. What are the rough ballpark costs for the enterprise version and is it worth paying for in your opinion? Quite a few people on here seem to be sticking with tape backups. Is that because of cost of do you feel it's most secure or faster to restore than server backups which are stored on a cloud solution? Always have an offline backup solution in my opinion. I've seen so many issues where people have online backups and get hit with ransomware on their backups, at least if something is tucked away in a fireproof safe somewhere well away from your main server room you're covered in almost all disaster scenarios. They're also pretty cheap. As for which veeam version, I'm using the essentials kit, enterprise edition. If you have 6 or less vCPUs you need to backup from it's an absolute bargain. (Personally i do have 10 vCPUs, but the other 2 hosts with 2 CPUs each are purely terminal servers which could be rebuilt in a flash if need be, so i don't bother backing those up to save money on the cheaper option of veeam) Edited May 19, 2017 by mrbios 3
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