Bompalompalomp Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I'm less nervous about the MOD2 since I know more people fail it and it might not even be up to me if someone else causes a fail, haha. Haven't booked that yet, got the lesson on Sunday so I'll book it after that.
crc-ict Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I'm less nervous about the MOD2 since I know more people fail it and it might not even be up to me if someone else causes a fail, haha. Haven't booked that yet, got the lesson on Sunday so I'll book it after that. I found MOD2 much easier than MOD1. MOD1 is all about technical moves, and a prescribed way of doing things. MOD2 is much more about a ride out, although obviously with someone watching you, but if you follow the rules of the road and ride safely, you'll be fine. Apart from the focus on obs, its much less about technical precision and more about generally being safe and competent at everyday riding. Put it this way, if I'd be MUCH less unhappy at having to do MOD2 again than MOD1 if it ever arose!
mikkydoos Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I'm less nervous about the MOD2 since I know more people fail it and it might not even be up to me if someone else causes a fail, haha. Haven't booked that yet, got the lesson on Sunday so I'll book it after that. I got marked down for not going fast enough A mate of mine failed for sticking to the speed limit too.
headoned Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Failed for sticking to the speed limit? you must be kidding?!
crc-ict Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 There is a bit of a rumour that goes around that you can fail MOD2 for not 'making adequate progress', which is taken to mean not riding fast enough. However, my instructor told me that what is meant by that is that they are looking for confident riding which takes advantage of the different characteristics of a motorcycle as a vehicle, and being assertive. It's about using your power to make safe overtakes on a dual carriageway rather than sitting behind a lorry at 50mph for example. I was told that you need to show you are not afraid to ride at the speed limit, but that exceeding it is NOT acceptable, with the possible exception of a very short period whilst making an overtake. I can't see anyone failing the test for obeying the speed limit. You might fail, however, if you were to miss a speed limit increase and keep sticking to the old limit - eg. missing the start of an NSL and keeping going at 30mph for ages. Didn't think these were serious faults, but I suppose if you do it consistently enough it'll add up to a fail. Remember if the examiner is following you on a bike (as they do most of the time unless there are problems), they aren't taking notes during the test, so the result will necessarily be based on their overall 'feel' of your riding unless there are stand-out serious faults.
foofighterjim Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I would say that the limit is just that, sometimes the road layout or other hazards dictate a lower speed. If your continue to do the speed limit just because, it would be perfectly plausible to be failed on that.
crc-ict Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I would say that the limit is just that, sometimes the road layout or other hazards dictate a lower speed. If your continue to do the speed limit just because, it would be perfectly plausible to be failed on that. I would agree with that, but @mikkydoos implication was that his mate was failed for not exceeding the limit.
mikkydoos Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Failed for sticking to the speed limit? you must be kidding?! I was taught always do 10% over. I got marked down for not doing so. It's to keep you out of the way from other traffic. Strange but true. Might just be this particular test centre but that's gospel. It was duel carriageway speeds Edited November 3, 2017 by mikkydoos
localzuk Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I've racked up 300 miles on my bike now since I did the CBT. Feeling a lot more confident with it - the nightmare corners on my commute route aren't that scary any more as I am happier leaning over further. Only thing I still mess up a little is slowing down for traffic lights and getting going again - I sometimes mess up the gearing as I forget which gear I'm in. All in all, riding isn't anywhere near as scary as I thought it would be. Just wish white van drivers were less moronic! When its dark, lights are a good idea fellas...
Andrew_C Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Just wish white van drivers were less moronic! They wouldn't get jobs driving them if they were...
Joanne Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Does that mean you can ride up to 125 without L plates then?
mikkydoos Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Passed the MOD 2 first time Part of that sweet club now m8 Well done. (1st time me too ) Does that mean you can ride up to 125 without L plates then? He can ride anything now (if he did his A1 and not A2 that is ?) Edited November 23, 2017 by mikkydoos
Bompalompalomp Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Does that mean you can ride up to 125 without L plates then? The restricted A2, forget the bhp but around 500-600cc and anything that can be restricted down
Joanne Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 sweet. I just wanna be able to ride without the L plates, but still not massively sure what I need to do. Thought it was mod1, mod2 and theory test...
mikkydoos Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 sweet. I just wanna be able to ride without the L plates, but still not massively sure what I need to do. Thought it was mod1, mod2 and theory test... You need: Theory test Current CBT Then.... Mod 1 - which is maneuvering and paddock work - done on either an A1 or A2 class bike. then.... Mod2: Road test (A2 allows restricted to a certain engine Kw output rather than engine size & no pillion I think) (A1 is unrestricted. Any engine, any size with pillion)
bald_pig Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Part of that sweet club now m8 Well done. (1st time me too ) I passed 1st time, but before Mod2 existed! congrats @Bompalompalomp
bald_pig Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 You need: Theory test Current CBT Then.... Mod 1 - which is maneuvering and paddock work - done on either an A1 or A2 class bike. then.... Mod2: Road test (A2 allows restricted to a certain engine Kw output rather than engine size & no pillion I think) (A1 is unrestricted. Any engine, any size with pillion) And AM which is moped without L plates and with pillions.
Bompalompalomp Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 You need: Theory test Current CBT Then.... Mod 1 - which is maneuvering and paddock work - done on either an A1 or A2 class bike. then.... Mod2: Road test (A2 allows restricted to a certain engine Kw output rather than engine size & no pillion I think) (A1 is unrestricted. Any engine, any size with pillion) CBT is the only one with restrictions for pillions, L plates or no motorways. A1 is the licence up to 125cc so you can have a pillion, ride on motorways (not that you want to on a 125) and have no L plates. Nobody does it really because it's the same as the A2 just on a smaller bike. A2 is the restricted because you're under 24 licence (it's 47BHP, just double checked). After that it's the unrestricted. Same tests just on an 47BHP+ bike and be over 24 or have ridden A2 for 4 years. If you wanted only up to 125 with no L plates and pillion, you'd do just the A1. Most people I know completely skip it though because all it does it get you pulled over because people think you're a learner without L plates!
mikkydoos Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 CBT is the only one with restrictions for pillions, L plates or no motorways. A1 is the licence up to 125cc so you can have a pillion, ride on motorways (not that you want to on a 125) and have no L plates. Nobody does it really because it's the same as the A2 just on a smaller bike. A2 is the restricted because you're under 24 licence (it's 47BHP, just double checked). After that it's the unrestricted. Same tests just on an 47BHP+ bike and be over 24 or have ridden A2 for 4 years. If you wanted only up to 125 with no L plates and pillion, you'd do just the A1. Most people I know completely skip it though because all it does it get you pulled over because people think you're a learner without L plates! Yes sorry you're right... I'm confused today. CBT AM A2 A1 A Like this... Motorcycle Driving Licence UK - CBT, A1, A2, A, Direct Access
jmak Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Saw a 125 with L plates carrying a pillion who was wearing shorts at the weekend. Scary how stupid some people are...
mikkydoos Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 Saw a 125 with L plates carrying a pillion who was wearing shorts at the weekend. Scary how stupid some people are... You don't want to see me on holiday then !
APMerry Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 The restricted A2, forget the bhp but around 500-600cc and anything that can be restricted down I've been riding a Honda CBR500 for 2 years now, you can ride it on a restricted license and I have to say it's more than enough power than you need for commuting. It's comfortable sitting at 70mph with enough left to accelerate if you need to. I have a full unrestricted license, but not felt the need to go any bigger. You may want a bigger bike if you're spending hours on the motorway, but for 30-60min commute it's fantastic.
Bompalompalomp Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 I've been riding a Honda CBR500 for 2 years now, you can ride it on a restricted license and I have to say it's more than enough power than you need for commuting. It's comfortable sitting at 70mph with enough left to accelerate if you need to. I have a full unrestricted license, but not felt the need to go any bigger. You may want a bigger bike if you're spending hours on the motorway, but for 30-60min commute it's fantastic. I like standards and cant really afford the insurance on anything bigger and restricted down, so I'm looking at things like in the range of a CB500, GS500 or ER-5 at the moment.
mikkydoos Posted November 23, 2017 Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Kwaki Er-6n or Yammy MT-07 are great bikes. I can't get on with suzukis. Too heavy. Er6 will restrict down ok. Edited November 23, 2017 by mikkydoos
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