BBC 3 Axed

[sted]

[quote=sparkeh;1139602

Personally I think that the BBC's output is far superior the endless, lowest common denominator rubbish you get on the other channels, due to having a licence fee.

 

they on occasions do but so much of their content is drivel like the voice or eastenders. Now why not set up a bbca (advertised channel) to put this stuff on let it pay for itself directly or not and keep bbc for stuff that other channels cant afford to do?

 

ive just scrolled through a week of bbc schedules and apart from pointless i cant find one thing i would watch (now granted they have other channels but if their flagship is that devoid of content why would the others be much better) so thats a lot of money per week in tv license fees for 1 programme

[LosOjos]

I had the opportunity to spend a week at BBC Birmingham last year and spent a little time with a couple of their engineers while I was there. A very important service the BBC do provide, but which isn't really advertised, is R&D. They are always working on new technologies and helping to develop real game changing ideas such as on demand services. I admit iPlayer isn't necessarily the best on demand service out there, but had the BBC not developed that and made it available for free, do you think Channel 4 would have done? As a commercial channel, it would be in their best interests to charge us to use it.

 

It is important to have a network that isn't dictated by advertising and viewing figures, if for nothing else than to keep the commercial networks in check.

[Gibbo]

I think that's slightly debatable. Looking at shows like Top Gear, Doctor Who, Merlin, Musketeers, Robin Hood, etc. I'd say the Beeb always have half an eye on what they can sell into worldwide syndication and DVD releases.

 

My OH works in this field, working with the BBC to sell their products overseas. Sherlock is the next big export they're pushing.

 

And its no co-incidence that the views of the UK viewers of Top Gear think its the same and boring. They make more money selling it overseas to countries that love the same format. That's why they don't review small UK cars on there - it wouldn't mean anything to the bigger denominator of worldwide viewers.

Edited March 7, 2014 by Gibbo

[SYNACK]

I think that's slightly debatable. Looking at shows like Top Gear, Doctor Who, Merlin, Musketeers, Robin Hood, etc. I'd say the Beeb always have half an eye on what they can sell into worldwide syndication and DVD releases. As evidenced by lack of historic content in iPlayer - they'd sooner make us pay twice with a DVD boxset than put it up for free.

 

Top Gears syndication alone probably pays for a large chunk of the BBC all by itself topping up the broadcasting fee.

[SpuffMonkey]

they on occasions do but so much of their content is drivel like the voice or eastenders. Now why not set up a bbca (advertised channel) to put this stuff on let it pay for itself directly or not and keep bbc for stuff that other channels cant afford to do?

 

 

Because they have to tread a tricky middle path. If they ditched the shows that bring in a big audience, their viewing figures would fall and all those politicians and their unpleasant paymasters would say "Look, no one is watching the BBC, they cannot justify having a licence fee" and it would be game over - personally I'm not keen on a lot of the stuff on BBC1, but a lot of people are - I gravitate to BBC2 & 4 and Radio 4 and the website and think its a flipping bargain when you stack it against Sky or Virgin - imagine how sparse their output would be without the endless repeats of the beeb's previous shows.

[sparkeh]

So, I was listening to Radio 5 as I drove into work today and the head of iPlayer was on talking about BBC 3.

Now, he did sound a bit confused about the whole thing but he said that all BBC 3 content accessible via the iPlayer would be broadcast on BBC 1 and BBC 2 as well.

 

Now I am confused

[tmcd35]

What he's not saying is that any use of BBC1 or BBC2 airtime for former BBC3 programs would necessitate cuts in BBC1/2 programming that would have been broadcast had BBC3 been on air, and of course there won't be enough available airspace on BBC1/2 for all of BBC3's programming. In deed the best of BBC3 usually made it's way across to BBC1/2 anyway at some point, so not a lot of change from BBC1/2 programming. All in all I'd say the head of iPlayer was being a little disingenuous and trying to put a positive spin on the situation.

[6Foot2]

Link: Petition · To the BBC Trust - #SaveBBC3 · Change.org

 

This petition is calling on the BBC Director General and the BBC Trust to reconsider plans to axe BBC Three from our television screens...

[Arthur]

BBC3 set to go online only as trust backs plans to scrap TV channel

 

The BBC Trust has approved the corporation’s plans to scrap the BBC3 TV channel and make it online-only in a move set to save the corporation £30m a year, while disappointing hundreds of stars and producers who fought against the channel’s closure.

 

Makes sense given the channel's target audience.

[Homer]

BBC3 set to go online only as trust backs plans to scrap TV channel

 

 

 

Makes sense given the channel's target audience.

 

I don't understand what the makes sense bit is about?

 

Personally I rarely watch it - but surely there should be choice for all generations? As the BBC is a PSB they should be making content for all generations. Maybe BBC4 should go as well?

[john]

BBC3 set to go online only as trust backs plans to scrap TV channel

 

 

 

Makes sense given the channel's target audience.

 

Very sad move I enjoy sitting down watching it when the internet is down etc... it also means I won't be able to watch it when at my parents as rural internet sucks still (until we get B4RN) but still its a bad move.

[Pyroman]

I don't understand what the makes sense bit is about?

 

Personally I rarely watch it - but surely there should be choice for all generations? As the BBC is a PSB they should be making content for all generations. Maybe BBC4 should go as well?

 

Keep your hands off BBC4!!

[Arthur]

I don't understand what the makes sense bit is about?

Young people who watch most programmes online/on-demand.

 

Whenever I watch something on BBC Three I do it via iPlayer since it's more convenient and easier compared to sitting in front of the TV at a specific date/time.

[SpuffMonkey]

The rejection of a BBC1+1 channel seems wrong to me - all the commercial channels have them and heaven forfend we should get to see stuff that we've already paid for!

[elsiegee40]

The rejection of a BBC1+1 channel seems wrong to me - all the commercial channels have them and heaven forfend we should get to see stuff that we've already paid for!

 

I can't see the point when everything is available on iplayer

[Homer]

Keep your hands off BBC4!!

 

My point in case! What suits one person isn't everybodies cup of tea. Although I had misunderstood where Arthur was coming from.

 

Young people who watch most programmes online/on-demand.

 

Whenever I watch something on BBC Three I do it via iPlayer since it's more convenient and easier compared to sitting in front of the TV at a specific date/time.

 

Agreed. I think the basis of their arguments though is that it was a good launch pad for new and random TV

[6Foot2]

BBC Three has now gone online only.

 

Link: Three - Best Of - BBC Three [bBC Three Homepage]

 

Edit: Just 'launched' as a service on The One Show.

Edited February 16, 2016 by 6Foot2

[DJ-1701]

Will it sink, or will it swim? Place your bets now...

 

[flyinghaggis]

I can see this becoming a problem in school if more channels move to streaming services as it effectively renders our ClickView subscription useless and the ERA licence along with it! We've just had a request for a programme on BBC3 and with it now being online only we won't have a way to record and watch BBC3 programmes for lessons.

 

They have the option to buy the content but this has the usual caveats that it's for "personal use only" so we'd need to break the service T&Cs to use it in school.

 

Edited February 17, 2016 by flyinghaggis

[Blue_Cookeh]

I can see this becoming a problem in school if more channels move to streaming services as it effectively renders our ClickView subscription useless and the ERA licence along with it! We've just had a request for a programme on BBC3 and with it now being online only we won't have a way to record and watch BBC3 programmes for lessons.

 

They have the option to buy the content but this has the usual caveats that it's for "personal use only" so we'd need to break the service T&Cs to use it in school.

 

 

Would using something like iPlayer not fall under the same laws (or regulation, whatever) as recording live TV? Can you not use the iPlayer download software to 'cache' programs indefinitely?

Edited February 17, 2016 by Blue_Cookeh

[flyinghaggis]

Would using something like iPlayer not fall under the same laws (or regulation, whatever) as recording live TV? Can you not use the iPlayer download software to 'cache' programs indefinitely?

 

I believe the ERA licence only covers traditionally 'broadcasts' like TV/Radio and not any streaming services AFAIK. Plus the downloads from iPlayer are only usable for 30 days so it's not really a practical way or storing content for future lessons in a school.